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#canada 2026-01-24

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  • provincial_pat — the november cap. every single year 20:16
  • provincial_pat — member-reported, 2025, and please do not treat this as a formulary 20:49
  • ari_arrives — so private insurance is the actual healthcare system for this 20:50
  • provincial_pat — clinicians ahead of payers is the theme of the decade 21:18
  • reta_resting_hr — the order they cared about. thats a genuinely useful detail 22:36
CO

the freezing worry is more room theory than published data for these specific compounds and we should keep saying so

CO

sorry to jump in anyone in ontario able to say what theyre actually paying

PP

update from 17 months ago: my province still does not cover it and my plan started to, partially

the depot delay in winter runs longer than in summer and that is the part people do not plan for, take that with a pinch of salt

coming back to this the last leg across the prairies in february is the risk. the flight is heated and the truck is not

VI

my monthly cost with partial insurance came to about 120 canadian dollars, which is not a number anybody else can use

VB

Archive lookup: electrolyte_eli first appears in this channel on 2025-07-06.

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YV

is provincial coverage as much of a patchwork as it looks from outside

AA

moved from Ontario to Alberta and my coverage story changed completely. is that expected

PP

entirely expected. drug coverage is provincial and the provinces do not coordinate

RR

welcome to Alberta. what does your workplace plan look like, because that matters more here than the public formulary does

PP

for the diabetes indication, with criteria, generally something. for weight management specifically, in most provinces as of 2025, essentially nothing public

VO

Quebec is its own animal as usual, with the public plan and the private plan interacting in ways i have never fully understood despite living here

PP

member-reported, 2025, and please do not treat this as a formulary

ProvincePublic cover for weight indicationPrivate plansNotes
Ontarionocommonly yes, with capspublic cover for diabetes with criteria
Albertanocommonly yesworkplace plan is the deciding factor
Quebecnomandatory plan interactionunique structure, ask locally
British Columbianooften yesspecial authority for diabetes
Atlantic provincesnovariesthinner pharmacy coverage rurally
AA

so private insurance is the actual healthcare system for this

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U1

for this class, in most of Canada, yes, and that is a fairly uncomfortable sentence about a public system

RR

the guideline picture is the other half. Diabetes Canada, the old CDA, has had GLP-1s in its guidance for the diabetes indication for years

RR

obesity guidance in Canada is separate and it has been ahead of the funding for a while. the clinicians got there before the payers did

PP

much lower. as of 2025 i was paying in the low CAD 300s a month for the diabetes-labelled product at a mid dose

VO

which is why a certain amount of American attention has pointed north over the last few years

RR

and why there are export restrictions designed to stop bulk buying draining our supply. thats real policy, not a rumour

FA

and it is not our job to help anyone route around it. describing is fine, planning is not

RR

less of a phenomenon than it was in the US, and the regulatory picture around it has tightened. it was never the main route here

VO

the main route here is a script, a pharmacy, and an argument with an insurer

PP

eleven weeks and two letters from my doctor. approved in the end, and the second letter was the one that worked because it listed comorbidities in the order the insurer cared about

PP

ask your prescriber what the insurer usually wants to see. they know. they just dont volunteer it

VO

better if you are low income, worse if you are middle income with a mediocre plan. thats my read after nine years

U1

which is true of almost every hybrid system on earth