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#coa-reading 2024-11-17

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  • tenpence — i keep every certificate in a dated folder and compare them. two suppliers had not changed their template since 2019 19:38
  • taper_or_not — sorry to jump in the font on this one changes halfway down, am i being paranoid 20:06
  • HPLC_Hank — while im here the three way match is vial, certificate, invoice. if all three agree you have something 20:17
  • area_percent — follow up i asked WWB for the method and they sent it. that alone put them ahead of most, someone check my working 20:22
  • reta_low_dose — whats the related substances table actually telling me 21:36
TE

i keep every certificate in a dated folder and compare them. two suppliers had not changed their template since 2019

lot        bought    purity   assay/label
A-2418     2025-03   99.1%    9.6 / 10mg
A-2601     2025-08   98.7%    9.8 / 10mg
B-0114     2026-01   99.3%    9.4 / 10mg
B-0329     2026-04   98.9%    9.9 / 10mg
BF

residual solvents matter more than people think for anything that went through a lot of purification steps

the honest summary is that a certificate tells you what the supplier says about a lot they chose to test

TO

quick one whats the minimum a certificate has to have before you take it seriously

TO

if the certificate date precedes the lot date, ask. sometimes it is sloppiness and sometimes it is not, ymmv

TO

sorry to jump in the font on this one changes halfway down, am i being paranoid

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HH

net peptide is gross mass minus water minus counterion. that is why 11.4mg of powder can be a correct 10mg vial

peak   RRT    area%    note
  1   0.42     0.31    solvent front
  2   0.88     0.44    related substance
  3   1.00    98.72    main
  4   1.14     0.53    related substance

while im here the three way match is vial, certificate, invoice. if all three agree you have something

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AP

if you only read one line on a certificate, read the lot number. if you read two, read the assay

follow up i asked WWB for the method and they sent it. that alone put them ahead of most, someone check my working

15

my 10mg vial weighed more than 5mg of powder, is the certificate lying

HH

why would a vial be 99 pure and still assay under label

LM

tfa counterion runs higher by mass than acetate. if the certificate does not say, you cannot do the mass balance

LM

nobody can authenticate a certificate from a scan. you authenticate the material by testing it yourself

ST

coming back to this no lot number, no certificate. a document you cannot tie to the vial in your hand is decoration

*VendorInvestigate not the other one

tfa or acetate, how do i tell from the paperwork

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HH

the paperwork can be perfect and the vial can still be light. weigh it, for what its worth

sorry to jump in should a certificate say which instrument and method they used

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RL

mixed fonts and inconsistent kerning in one document is worth a second look

a vial can be 99.4% pure and hold 8.1mg of a 10mg label. both numbers are true and only one of them is the one you care about

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