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#coa-reading 2025-02-12

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Highlights from this day
  • void_volume — update on the earlier thing a vial can be 99.4% pure and hold 8.1mg of a 10mg label. both numbers are true and only one of them is the one you care about, from memory 16:41
  • pbs_pip — the related substances table is the interesting part. a row of "not detected" means they did not look hard 16:49
  • HPLC_Hank — the certificate from GL Biochem is the one i use to teach this because it actually has a populated impurity table 17:26
GG

a lab that reports "greater than 98%" rather than a number is telling you they did not integrate carefully

update on the earlier thing my 15mg vial weighed more than 15mg of powder, is the certificate lying

GG

sorry to jump in no lot number, no certificate. a document you cannot tie to the vial in your hand is decoration

PS

nobody can authenticate a certificate from a scan. you authenticate the material by testing it yourself

GG

residual solvents matter more than people think for anything that went through a lot of purification steps

IS

the honest summary is that a certificate tells you what the supplier says about a lot they chose to test

IS

an identical chromatogram on two different lots is the single biggest tell there is

VV

coming back after 9 months, has the pinned reading guide changed

update on the earlier thing a vial can be 99.4% pure and hold 8.1mg of a 10mg label. both numbers are true and only one of them is the one you care about, from memory

does purity by hplc at one wavelength miss things

not evidence on its own

the related substances table is the interesting part. a row of "not detected" means they did not look hard

LineClaimsDoes not claim
Purity (area %)fraction of detected material that is the targethow many mg are in the vial
Assay / contentmg of target per vialthat it is sterile
Water contentmass fraction that is wateranything about purity
Counterionsalt form and its mass sharenet peptide unless stated
Related substanceswhat else was seenwhat was not looked for
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PS

update from 19 months ago: started asking every supplier for water content and about half now include it

sterility and endotoxin are separate tests and almost nobody runs either on research material

HH

the certificate from GL Biochem is the one i use to teach this because it actually has a populated impurity table

retention time shifts between runs are normal. relative retention time is the number to compare

purity is not assay

good certificate actually

is area percent the same thing as how many mg are in the vial

IS

one decimal versus two is usually just house style, not precision, for what its worth

KF

quick one i keep every certificate in a dated folder and compare them. two suppliers had not changed their template since 2019