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#coa-reading 2025-05-21

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Highlights from this day
  • dexa_or_bia — the retention time on this one is different from the last lot, problem 22:13
  • area_percent — sorry to jump in mixed fonts and inconsistent kerning in one document is worth a second look 22:19
  • truncation_tru — genuine question the font on this one changes halfway down, am i being paranoid 22:31
  • chain_of_custody — quick one purity is what fraction of the contents is the target. assay is how many mg are actually there. different questions 22:52
CO

single wavelength detection can miss a co-eluting impurity that does not absorb there

CO

ok so the honest summary is that a certificate tells you what the supplier says about a lot they chose to test

DO

should a certificate say which instrument and method they used

CO

net peptide is gross mass minus water minus counterion. that is why 11.4mg of powder can be a correct 10mg vial

DO

is water content normally on a certificate or do you have to ask

the related substances table is the interesting part. a row of "not detected" means they did not look hard

the retention time on this one is different from the last lot, problem

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AP

sorry to jump in mixed fonts and inconsistent kerning in one document is worth a second look

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TT

genuine question the font on this one changes halfway down, am i being paranoid

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two certificates from the same supplier have an identical chromatogram, is that normal

MG

i asked GL Biochem for the method and they sent it. that alone put them ahead of most

the certificate from FGP is the one i use to teach this because it actually has a populated impurity table

AP

coming back to this if the certificate date precedes the lot date, ask. sometimes it is sloppiness and sometimes it is not, i think

quick one purity is what fraction of the contents is the target. assay is how many mg are actually there. different questions

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MO

water content is why an honest 10mg vial assays at 9.1. karl fischer titration, and most certificates omit it

i have never seen a research certificate with an endotoxin result on it. not once
i keep every certificate in a dated folder and compare them. two suppliers had not changed their template since 2019

check the lot

is sterility tested as part of a normal purity certificate

tfa counterion runs higher by mass than acetate. if the certificate does not say, you cannot do the mass balance

sloppy not sinister

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C1

for the archive certificate is dated before the lot date, is that just sloppiness

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MO

slightly off topic but whats the minimum a certificate has to have before you take it seriously

AP

i was wrong about this for a year: area percent under-reports nothing, it just answers a different question than assay does, happy to be corrected

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