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#dosing-titration 2025-03-05

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  • seven_five_sweet — if you are going up because the scale stalled for two weeks, wait. two weeks is noise 13:49
  • no_appetite_nia — if it "stopped working after four days" that is almost never pharmacokinetics 15:14
  • noct.titrate — is there a trial anywhere that studied twice weekly, or is it all anecdote 16:11
  • third_shift — how do you decide between holding and stepping when both feel wrong 16:29
  • brisbane_bac — i escalate on symptoms. if the current dose is still doing something i stay on it 17:14
BB

whats the longest anyone has stayed on one dose

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SF

if you are going up because the scale stalled for two weeks, wait. two weeks is noise

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NP

small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience, ymmv

the honest answer is that most of us are running protocols nobody has ever studied

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*VendorInvestigate not the other one

PT

if you are asking whether to go up, the fact you are asking usually means not yet, happy to be corrected

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PT

appetite returning at the end of the week is extremely common and is not the dose failing

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SF

if the current dose is still working, going up is spending headroom you might want later

coming back to this coming down from 1.7 to 1, how bad is the appetite rebound

dose day drift is mostly harmless with a weekly compound, but pick a day and defend it, happy to be corrected

NA

if it "stopped working after four days" that is almost never pharmacokinetics

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NA

while im here i jumped a rung once to catch up after a supply gap and it was a bad week. would not repeat

CO

i went from 1.7 to 7.5 and honestly could not tell the difference in appetite

i log dose, day, weight and one line about how the week felt. thats enough to make decisions on

a missed week does not reset you, but going straight back to the top dose after a gap is how people get floored

TS

hold

wk 1-4    2.5mg
wk 5-8    5.0mg
wk 9-20   7.5mg   <- stayed here
wk 21-24  10.0mg  (no extra benefit for me)
wk 25+    7.5mg   (came back down)
NT

my titration ladder took 4 months to climb and i would do it slower again

NT

is there a trial anywhere that studied twice weekly, or is it all anecdote

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance
NP

anyone tracked whether a smaller more frequent dose changed their side effects
holding is not failing. most people here who lasted two years held at least one dose for months

NP

after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice, take that with a pinch of salt

TS

how do you decide between holding and stepping when both feel wrong

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BB

split dosing has no trial behind it. people here do it and report on it, thats all

BB

my rule: if a side effect is still there at day five, i hold. if it clears by day three, i step

coming back to this how do you tell a plateau from just being at your set point

i escalate on symptoms. if the current dose is still doing something i stay on it

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if i hold at 2.4 indefinitely am i losing anything

stepping back down on purpose is a completely reasonable move and this channel should say so more often, n of 1 obviously

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BB

holding is not failing. most people here who lasted two years held at least one dose for months
dose day drift is mostly harmless with a weekly compound, but pick a day and defend it

TS

i drifted from sunday to wednesday over a year and only noticed when i checked the log