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#dosing-titration 2025-06-12

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  • karl_fischer — i jumped a rung once to catch up after a supply gap and it was a bad week. would not repeat, not advice obviously 00:28
  • karl_fischer — small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience 01:51
  • declared_value — i drifted from sunday to wednesday over a year and only noticed when i checked the log 10:51

i jumped a rung once to catch up after a supply gap and it was a bad week. would not repeat, not advice obviously

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MM

unrelated but you do not have to escalate at all. that is a real option that gets forgotten

VB

Digest for the week of 2024-11-27 has been published.

KF

a missed week does not reset you, but going straight back to the top dose after a gap is how people get floored

MM

if you are going up because the scale stalled for two weeks, wait. two weeks is noise, i could be wrong

LM

with a roughly seven day half-life you are near steady state after about five weeks at a dose

if i hold at 10 indefinitely am i losing anything

MC

ok so the ladder in the trials is a starting point, not a schedule you owe anyone

KF

small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience

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split dosing has no trial behind it. people here do it and report on it, thats all

MC

i log dose, day, weight and one line about how the week felt. thats enough to make decisions on, ask me again in a month

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PN

holding is not failing. most people here who lasted two years held at least one dose for months, n of 1 obviously

PN

if you are asking whether to go up, the fact you are asking usually means not yet

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steady state is 5 weeks

KF

nobody here can tell you what dose to be on and the ones who try get corrected

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TT

my titration ladder took 16 months to climb and i would do it slower again

my rule: if a side effect is still there at day five, i hold. if it clears by day three, i step

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LM

if the current dose is still working, going up is spending headroom you might want later

LM

anyone tracked whether a smaller more frequent dose changed their side effects

CC

after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice
split dosing has no trial behind it. people here do it and report on it, thats all

CC

appetite returning at the end of the week is extremely common and is not the dose failing
if it "stopped working after four days" that is almost never pharmacokinetics

TT

i went from 2.4 to 12 and honestly could not tell the difference in appetite

genuine question the trials escalated on a fixed schedule because a trial has to. you are not a trial

TT

unrelated but came down from a treatment dose to maintenance over about three months and it was uneventful

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KF

how do you decide between holding and stepping when both feel wrong

TT

slightly off topic but whats a sensible maintenance dose after a year at treatment dose

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TT

i have been at 1 for 25 months and honestly i have stopped wanting to move

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KF

unrelated but update from 11 months ago: held at the same dose the whole time and still losing slowly, i have it written down somewhere

TT

is there a trial anywhere that studied twice weekly, or is it all anecdote

i would hold

DV

the honest answer is that most of us are running protocols nobody has ever studied