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#dosing-titration 2025-07-13

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  • tallinn_taper — for the archive dose day drift is mostly harmless with a weekly compound, but pick a day and defend it 16:29
  • tallinn_taper — my titration ladder took 22 months to climb and i would do it slower again 16:56
  • mira_pins — coming down from 0.25 to 5, how bad is the appetite rebound 16:58
  • taper_tess — a missed week does not reset you, but going straight back to the top dose after a gap is how people get floored 17:09
  • no_escrow_nate — appetite returning at the end of the week is extremely common and is not the dose failing 18:16
RS

split dosing has no trial behind it. people here do it and report on it, thats all, thats one data point
i escalate on symptoms. if the current dose is still doing something i stay on it

*PeptideMeter not the other one

the argument for splitting is a flatter curve. the argument against is you have doubled your injections for a guess

while im here holding is not failing. most people here who lasted two years held at least one dose for months

with a roughly seven day half-life you are near steady state after about five weeks at a dose

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RS

the ladder in the trials is a starting point, not a schedule you owe anyone

how do you decide between holding and stepping when both feel wrong

i log dose, day, weight and one line about how the week felt. thats enough to make decisions on

RS

i drifted from sunday to wednesday over a year and only noticed when i checked the log, happy to be corrected

thats anecdote

TT

if you are going up because the scale stalled for two weeks, wait. two weeks is noise, n of 1 obviously

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i hold for two months minimum before i decide a dose has stopped doing anything

is it normal for appetite to come back at the end of the week

for the archive dose day drift is mostly harmless with a weekly compound, but pick a day and defend it

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right so plateau versus set point is not answerable in under six months of data, still working it out

small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience

TT

nobody here can tell you what dose to be on and the ones who try get corrected
my titration ladder took 23 months to climb and i would do it slower again

TT

my titration ladder took 22 months to climb and i would do it slower again

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MP

coming down from 0.25 to 5, how bad is the appetite rebound

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TT

a missed week does not reset you, but going straight back to the top dose after a gap is how people get floored

U-100 syringe: 1 unit = 0.01 ml
  10u = 0.10 ml
  25u = 0.25 ml
  50u = 0.50 ml
 100u = 1.00 ml
mg drawn = ml drawn x mg/ml
FT

whats a sensible maintenance dose after a year at treatment dose

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MP

if it "stopped working after four days" that is almost never pharmacokinetics

TT

after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice

MP

i went to the top of the ladder, felt no better than two rungs down, and came back. that is data for me and nobody else

is there a point where going up stops buying you anything

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MP

i escalate on symptoms. if the current dose is still doing something i stay on it
dose day drift is mostly harmless with a weekly compound, but pick a day and defend it

if you are asking whether to go up, the fact you are asking usually means not yet, thats one data point

no trial for that

NE

appetite returning at the end of the week is extremely common and is not the dose failing

Cited study
Tirzepatide Once Weekly for the Treatment of Obesity (SURMOUNT-1)
New England Journal of Medicine · 2022
72 weeks, tirzepatide 5, 10 and 15mg against placebo.
MP

genuine question do you escalate on the calendar or on how you feel

came down, no regrets

the trials escalated on a fixed schedule because a trial has to. you are not a trial

DD

has anyone gone up and then straight back down and been glad they tried

DD

update from 5 months ago: held at the same dose the whole time and still losing slowly, still working it out

VV

the people who do best here are almost always the ones going slowest

i went up too fast and im paying for it, do i drop back or ride it out

DD

i went from 2.4 to 12 and honestly could not tell the difference in appetite

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is there any actual reason to escalate every 4 weeks other than the trial did it

for the archive if i took it 4 days late do i shift the schedule or go back to the old day

not advice

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SS

sorry to jump in came down from a treatment dose to maintenance over about three months and it was uneventful

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SS

stepping back down on purpose is a completely reasonable move and this channel should say so more often

i would hold

if you are going up because the scale stalled for two weeks, wait. two weeks is noise