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#dosing-titration 2025-08-10

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  • tokyo_taper — sorry to jump in plateau versus set point is not answerable in under six months of data 10:44
  • warsaw_vial — whats your rule for when a side effect means hold rather than push 13:38
  • bac_water_bill — appetite returning at the end of the week is extremely common and is not the dose failing 14:18
  • half_life_hal — dose day drift is mostly harmless with a weekly compound, but pick a day and defend it, ask me again in a month 16:33
SS

a missed week does not reset you, but going straight back to the top dose after a gap is how people get floored, thats one data point
the argument for splitting is a flatter curve. the argument against is you have doubled your injections for a guess

SS

i have been at 7.5 for 6 months and honestly i have stopped wanting to move

stepping back down on purpose is a completely reasonable move and this channel should say so more often

SN

after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice, i have it written down somewhere

TT

follow up the ladder in the trials is a starting point, not a schedule you owe anyone

TT

i drifted from sunday to wednesday over a year and only noticed when i checked the log

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TT

if you are going up because the scale stalled for two weeks, wait. two weeks is noise

sorry to jump in plateau versus set point is not answerable in under six months of data

Cited study
Tirzepatide Once Weekly for the Treatment of Obesity (SURMOUNT-1)
New England Journal of Medicine · 2022
72 weeks, tirzepatide 5, 10 and 15mg against placebo.
TT

if you are asking whether to go up, the fact you are asking usually means not yet

anyone tracked whether a smaller more frequent dose changed their side effects

TT

the argument for splitting is a flatter curve. the argument against is you have doubled your injections for a guess, i have it written down somewhere

BW

i jumped a rung once to catch up after a supply gap and it was a bad week. would not repeat

if i hold at 1 indefinitely am i losing anything

HL

i hold for two months minimum before i decide a dose has stopped doing anything

BW

is there a trial anywhere that studied twice weekly, or is it all anecdote

unrelated but i went from 1.7 to 7.5 and honestly could not tell the difference in appetite

WV

whats your rule for when a side effect means hold rather than push

lot-log.csv
574 rows · not retained in the public archive
BW

i log dose, day, weight and one line about how the week felt. thats enough to make decisions on

appetite returning at the end of the week is extremely common and is not the dose failing

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i would hold

held for months

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SS

quick one coming down from 1 to 5, how bad is the appetite rebound

FM

if it "stopped working after four days" that is almost never pharmacokinetics

i went to the top of the ladder, felt no better than two rungs down, and came back. that is data for me and nobody else, thats just me

is there a point where going up stops buying you anything
update from 18 months ago: held at the same dose the whole time and still losing slowly

HL

small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience

FM

slightly off topic but update from 26 months ago: held at the same dose the whole time and still losing slowly

came down, no regrets

RR

for the archive update question: did anyone who held for 4 months regret it

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HL

coming back to this my titration ladder took 14 months to climb and i would do it slower again

two weeks is nothing

HL

dose day drift is mostly harmless with a weekly compound, but pick a day and defend it, ask me again in a month

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