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#dosing-titration 2025-11-11

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  • invoice_mismatch — stepping back down on purpose is a completely reasonable move and this channel should say so more often 12:32
  • hot_mailbox — the argument for splitting is a flatter curve. the argument against is you have doubled your injections for a guess if the current dose is still working, going up is… 13:01
  • bolus_bo — how do you decide between holding and stepping when both feel wrong 13:26
  • reta_resting_hr — do you tell your prescriber you held or do you just hold 14:00
  • low_and_slow — what does the room think about jumping a rung to catch up 17:10
TT

is it normal for appetite to come back at the end of the week

stepping back down on purpose is a completely reasonable move and this channel should say so more often

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TT

two weeks is nothing

Cited study
Once-Weekly Semaglutide in Adults with Overweight or Obesity (STEP 1)
New England Journal of Medicine · 2021
68 weeks, semaglutide 2.4mg weekly against placebo, with lifestyle intervention in both arms.

small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience, ill dig out the number

the argument for splitting is a flatter curve. the argument against is you have doubled your injections for a guess
if the current dose is still working, going up is spending headroom you might want later

i jumped a rung once to catch up after a supply gap and it was a bad week. would not repeat

TT

ok so nobody here can tell you what dose to be on and the ones who try get corrected, n of 1 obviously

no trial for that

i would hold

BB

how do you decide between holding and stepping when both feel wrong

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NT

i have been at 7.5 for 18 months and honestly i have stopped wanting to move

NT

the trials escalated on a fixed schedule because a trial has to. you are not a trial
after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice

i hold for two months minimum before i decide a dose has stopped doing anything
i escalate on symptoms. if the current dose is still doing something i stay on it

BB

i escalate on symptoms. if the current dose is still doing something i stay on it

BB

whats the smallest step anyone has managed between doses

BB

has anyone gone up and then straight back down and been glad they tried

NT

came down from a treatment dose to maintenance over about three months and it was uneventful

RT

my rule: if a side effect is still there at day five, i hold. if it clears by day three, i step

CC

anyone here split their weekly into two and would they do it again

do you escalate on the calendar or on how you feel

the people who do best here are almost always the ones going slowest

CC

if it "stopped working after four days" that is almost never pharmacokinetics

update from 11 months ago: held at the same dose the whole time and still losing slowly

thats noise

LA

after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice, take that with a pinch of salt

LA

if you are asking whether to go up, the fact you are asking usually means not yet

*Medutest not the other one

whats the longest anyone has stayed on one dose

RR

split dosing has no trial behind it. people here do it and report on it, thats all

RR

dose day drift is mostly harmless with a weekly compound, but pick a day and defend it

LA

right so holding is not failing. most people here who lasted two years held at least one dose for months

ES

you do not have to escalate at all. that is a real option that gets forgotten

LA

is there any actual reason to escalate every 4 weeks other than the trial did it

not advice

a missed week does not reset you, but going straight back to the top dose after a gap is how people get floored

if i took it 8 days late do i shift the schedule or go back to the old day
holding is not failing. most people here who lasted two years held at least one dose for months

plateau versus set point is not answerable in under six months of data

BB

coming back to this the ladder in the trials is a starting point, not a schedule you owe anyone
with a roughly seven day half-life you are near steady state after about five weeks at a dose

RT

i went to the top of the ladder, felt no better than two rungs down, and came back. that is data for me and nobody else

my titration ladder took 8 months to climb and i would do it slower again

U1

the honest answer is that most of us are running protocols nobody has ever studied