you do not have to escalate at all. that is a real option that gets forgotten
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#dosing-titration 2026-04-11
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Highlights from this day
- vat_on_import — i went to the top of the ladder, felt no better than two rungs down, and came back. that is data for me and nobody else 19:48
- snac_and_water — holding is not failing. most people here who lasted two years held at least one dose for months, from memory 20:02
- flint_fills — dose day drift is mostly harmless with a weekly compound, but pick a day and defend it 20:39
- seven_five_sweet — i went up too fast and im paying for it, do i drop back or ride it out 21:25
i went to the top of the ladder, felt no better than two rungs down, and came back. that is data for me and nobody else
after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice
i have been at 1.7 for 23 months and honestly i have stopped wanting to move
i log dose, day, weight and one line about how the week felt. thats enough to make decisions on
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holding is not failing. most people here who lasted two years held at least one dose for months, from memory
| Trial schedule | What most people here do | |
|---|---|---|
| Step interval | 4 weeks, fixed | 4-12 weeks, on symptoms |
| Holding | protocol deviation | normal and expected |
| Top dose | reached by design | often never reached |
| Coming down | not studied | common at maintenance |
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half life is a week
small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience
the trials escalated on a fixed schedule because a trial has to. you are not a trial
end of week thing
if you are asking whether to go up, the fact you are asking usually means not yet
the argument for splitting is a flatter curve. the argument against is you have doubled your injections for a guess
[edited]if i took it 3 days late do i shift the schedule or go back to the old day
i jumped a rung once to catch up after a supply gap and it was a bad week. would not repeat
is week 31 too early to be thinking about the next step
i went from 7.5 to 15 and honestly could not tell the difference in appetite
whats your rule for when a side effect means hold rather than push
*Medutest not the other one
how do you tell a plateau from just being at your set point
right so with a roughly seven day half-life you are near steady state after about five weeks at a dose
do you count from injection day or from when you actually felt it
dose day drift is mostly harmless with a weekly compound, but pick a day and defend it
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quick one the people who do best here are almost always the ones going slowest
unrelated but a missed week does not reset you, but going straight back to the top dose after a gap is how people get floored
i drifted from sunday to wednesday over a year and only noticed when i checked the log
my dose day has drifted 9 days later over 25 months, does it matter
pick a day and stick to it
i would hold
[edited]the honest answer is that most of us are running protocols nobody has ever studied
anyone tracked whether a smaller more frequent dose changed their side effects
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thats normal
[edited]is there a point where going up stops buying you anything
whats the smallest step anyone has managed between doses
i went up too fast and im paying for it, do i drop back or ride it out
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not advice
my titration ladder took 23 months to climb and i would do it slower again, ymmv
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the ladder in the trials is a starting point, not a schedule you owe anyone
the argument for splitting is a flatter curve. the argument against is you have doubled your injections for a guess
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came down from a treatment dose to maintenance over about three months and it was uneventful
nobody here can tell you what dose to be on and the ones who try get corrected
is there a trial anywhere that studied twice weekly, or is it all anecdote
while im here if you are going up because the scale stalled for two weeks, wait. two weeks is noise
follow up split dosing has no trial behind it. people here do it and report on it, thats all
update from 22 months ago: held at the same dose the whole time and still losing slowly, happy to be corrected
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update question: did anyone who held for 18 months regret it
i went from 2 to 10 and honestly could not tell the difference in appetite
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stepping back down on purpose is a completely reasonable move and this channel should say so more often
is there any actual reason to escalate every 4 weeks other than the trial did it
no trial for that
[edited]i escalate on symptoms. if the current dose is still doing something i stay on it, i could be wrong
plateau versus set point is not answerable in under six months of data
slightly off topic but go slower
has anyone gone up and then straight back down and been glad they tried