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#dosing-titration 2026-05-22

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Highlights from this day
  • protein_floor — the schedule comes from a trial that had to standardise. you are one person 19:36
  • protein_floor — the grid. it is not complicated, people just want permission to hold 19:50
  • assay_not_purity — and a reminder that the outcome you care about might not be the scale. this one was breathing 20:57
MP

do you tell your prescriber you held or do you just hold

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no trial for that

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while im here how long did you hold at 15 before you moved up

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MP

anyone here split their weekly into two and would they do it again
after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice

small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience

CC

i escalate on symptoms. if the current dose is still doing something i stay on it

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DV

after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice

DV

right so the argument for splitting is a flatter curve. the argument against is you have doubled your injections for a guess

CC

for the archive update from 7 months ago: held at the same dose the whole time and still losing slowly
i log dose, day, weight and one line about how the week felt. thats enough to make decisions on

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DV

came down from a treatment dose to maintenance over about three months and it was uneventful, i could be wrong

SB

i log dose, day, weight and one line about how the week felt. thats enough to make decisions on

i went to the top of the ladder, felt no better than two rungs down, and came back. that is data for me and nobody else

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FM

week 8. losing steadily but day 2 nausea is still rough. do i go up or hold

PF

the schedule comes from a trial that had to standardise. you are one person

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ZZ

i went up because the calendar said so, felt awful for three weeks, and lost less than the month before

AN

dose is a lever for effect. if you already have the effect you wanted, there is nothing left to buy

PF

the grid. it is not complicated, people just want permission to hold

SituationWhat most people here do
losing, tolerablehold. no reason to move
losing, side effects roughhold, and fix the side effect first
flat 3+ weeks, tolerableconsider one step up
flat, side effects roughfix tolerability before touching the dose
gaining, no appetite effect at allstep up, or ask whether the vial is what you think it is
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AN

it is. a total absence of appetite effect at a real dose is one of the ways underfilled vials get noticed

ZZ

the other thing is dose-day drift. i started on saturdays and now i inject whenever i remember

PF

that is how a weekly drug becomes a nine day drug and your side effects start looking random

AN

the trough matters. stretch to nine or ten days and hunger comes back, and then people blame the dose

ZZ

which is what i did. blamed the dose, went up, felt terrible

AN

same day, and roughly the same time of day if you can manage it. a few hours does not matter, two days does

ZZ

i moved mine from saturday to thursday once. did it as a one day shift over two weeks rather than in one jump

AN

and a reminder that the outcome you care about might not be the scale. this one was breathing

Cited study
Tirzepatide for Obstructive Sleep Apnea (SURMOUNT-OSA)
New England Journal of Medicine · 2024
tirzepatide substantially reduced the apnoea-hypopnoea index versus placebo in adults with obesity and moderate to severe obstructive sleep apnoea
CH

and none of this is a prescription. hold, escalate or stop is a decision with whoever prescribes for you

SB

the ladder in the trials is a starting point, not a schedule you owe anyone

do you escalate on the calendar or on how you feel

DV

if it "stopped working after four days" that is almost never pharmacokinetics

ST

the people who do best here are almost always the ones going slowest, someone check my working

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ST

with a roughly seven day half-life you are near steady state after about five weeks at a dose

for the archive is week 7 too early to be thinking about the next step

U1

i went from 2.4 to 10 and honestly could not tell the difference in appetite