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#food-and-training 2025-11-24

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  • see_a_clinician — anyone tracked their protein properly for a week and been shocked by the number 22:01
  • panel_before_after — nobody here is your dietitian. we can tell you what we eat and what happened afterwards 22:09
  • VialBot — Assay note: QYB lot H-2814 reported at 96.8% of label content. 22:48
  • font_forensics — greek yoghurt, cottage cheese, whey in milk. that is most of my protein and none of it needs chewing 23:27
  • dez_domains — i lift three times a week and my lifts dropped about ten percent while losing, then came back up alcohol hitting harder is one of the most consistent reports in this… 23:44
PF

follow up i cook normally and freeze it in small pots. the food is unchanged, the portion is the only difference

bioimpedance scales are a mood ring. they track how hydrated you are more than anything about fat

please dont go lower

dexa or the bathroom bioimpedance thing, is the cheap one worth anything at all

fibre from food first, psyllium if food is not doing it. i went straight to the sachets and regretted it

coming back after 8 months, what did people change about food that stuck

SB

liquid protein was the thing that fixed this for me. a shake is food, it is not a shortcut, not advice obviously

SA

anyone tracked their protein properly for a week and been shocked by the number

target weight 75kg
1.6 g/kg  = 120 g/day
1.8 g/kg  = 135 g/day
spread over 4 feeds = 30-34 g each
which with no appetite is the actual problem
SB

im lifting and losing and i cant tell if im getting weaker or just lighter

nobody here is your dietitian. we can tell you what we eat and what happened afterwards

Target weight1.6 g/kg1.8 g/kg
60 kg96 g108 g
70 kg112 g126 g
80 kg128 g144 g
90 kg144 g162 g
100 kg160 g180 g
A1

if you are at 700 calories a day that is the thing to fix before anything else. please eat more

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VO

160 grams a day sounds enormous until you notice a chicken breast is 30 and a shake is 25

the room is quite firm about eating enough and i think that is the best thing about this channel

A1

is 1.6 grams per kg the number everyone uses or did we make that up

WW

family meals i put a small amount on the plate and nobody comments anymore. that took about a year

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A1

coming back to this alcohol hitting harder is one of the most consistent reports in this channel. two drinks feels like five

TT

genuinely, eat more. nobody here will congratulate you for 700 calories and we have all watched somebody get hurt by it, for what its worth
you will feel weaker while losing. whether you actually are is a different question and only numbers answer it

AA

creatine has nothing to do with any of this and i still take it. five grams, cheap, well studied

dexa if you can

VB

Assay note: QYB lot H-2814 reported at 96.8% of label content.

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dexa twice a year if you can afford it. the cheap scale will tell you a new story every day and none of them are true, thats just me

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VO

you will feel weaker while losing. whether you actually are is a different question and only numbers answer it

at 90kg and 1.6 per kg you are looking at 144 grams. i have never once hit it on a bad appetite week

do i need creatine or is that a completely different hobby

NA

does the room think about protein per meal or per day

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VO

i was wrong about protein for a year. i thought losing my appetite meant i should eat less. it does not

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the calorie floor question is the right one to ask. i would not go under 1200 without somebody keeping an eye on me

two sessions a week

i stopped counting calories and started counting protein, and one number is much easier than two

Cited study
Effect of Semaglutide Coadministered with Intensive Behavioural Therapy (STEP 3)
JAMA · 2021
Semaglutide plus intensive behavioural therapy and a low-calorie diet run-in.
DD

prep in portions a third of the size you think you need. big containers go in the bin uneaten, thats one data point

FF

greek yoghurt, cottage cheese, whey in milk. that is most of my protein and none of it needs chewing

target weight 75kg
1.6 g/kg  = 120 g/day
1.8 g/kg  = 135 g/day
spread over 4 feeds = 30-34 g each
which with no appetite is the actual problem
DD

i front load protein. 40 grams at breakfast because by the evening i cannot face any of it, your mileage will differ

im eating maybe 700 calories a day without trying and i know thats wrong, where do i start

FF

cold food is easier. i eat a lot of things at fridge temperature now and i cannot explain why that helps