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#food-and-training 2026-04-30

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  • identity_shift — update from 23 months ago: fixed my protein, the fatigue lifted, and i cannot prove those two are connected electrolytes made a real difference to my headaches, and a… 18:52
  • quiet.hours — alcohol hits me twice as hard now, has anyone else had that 20:00
  • gorse_gains — greek yoghurt, cottage cheese, whey in milk. that is most of my protein and none of it needs chewing 20:18
  • vial_ledger — is cold food easier for anyone else or is that just me 22:22
MC

i lift three times a week and my lifts dropped about ten percent while losing, then came back up
at 90kg and 1.6 per kg you are looking at 144 grams. i have never once hit it on a bad appetite week

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QH

electrolytes made a real difference to my headaches, and a pinch of salt in water goes a long way before you buy anything

drink it if you cant eat it

MC

coming back to this how do you hit protein when literally nothing is appealing

MC

you will feel weaker while losing. whether you actually are is a different question and only numbers answer it

right so whats a realistic calorie floor before it becomes an actual problem

Cited study
Effect of Semaglutide Coadministered with Intensive Behavioural Therapy (STEP 3)
JAMA · 2021
Semaglutide plus intensive behavioural therapy and a low-calorie diet run-in.

160 grams a day sounds enormous until you notice a chicken breast is 30 and a shake is 25

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TT

i cook normally and freeze it in small pots. the food is unchanged, the portion is the only difference

target weight 75kg
1.6 g/kg  = 120 g/day
1.8 g/kg  = 135 g/day
spread over 4 feeds = 30-34 g each
which with no appetite is the actual problem

i was wrong about protein for a year. i thought losing my appetite meant i should eat less. it does not

meal prep that survives early satiety, what actually works

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i stopped counting calories and started counting protein, and one number is much easier than two

IS

update from 23 months ago: fixed my protein, the fatigue lifted, and i cannot prove those two are connected
electrolytes made a real difference to my headaches, and a pinch of salt in water goes a long way before you buy anything

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TT

right so liquid protein was the thing that fixed this for me. a shake is food, it is not a shortcut

bioimpedance is a mood ring

QH

fibre from food first, psyllium if food is not doing it. i went straight to the sachets and regretted it

BB

creatine has nothing to do with any of this and i still take it. five grams, cheap, well studied

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if you cannot eat it, drink it. that is the whole trick and it took me far too long to work out

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II

protein per meal matters more than per day once you are eating tiny amounts. i aim for 30 grams a sitting

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QH

alcohol hits me twice as hard now, has anyone else had that

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VL

right so im eating maybe 700 calories a day without trying and i know thats wrong, where do i start

PF

prep in portions a third of the size you think you need. big containers go in the bin uneaten

PF

add salt

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GG

greek yoghurt, cottage cheese, whey in milk. that is most of my protein and none of it needs chewing

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TT

coffee on an empty stomach is making me feel awful, is that the drug or is that just coffee

GG

a tin of tuna, a pot of yoghurt and a shake is 60 grams and about four minutes of work

dexa if you can

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TT

the room is quite firm about eating enough and i think that is the best thing about this channel

TT

dexa or the bathroom bioimpedance thing, is the cheap one worth anything at all

II

is 1.6 grams per kg the number everyone uses or did we make that up

AA

anyone tracked their protein properly for a week and been shocked by the number

GG

i front load protein. 40 grams at breakfast because by the evening i cannot face any of it

how do you handle a family meal when you can eat a third of whats on the plate

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GG

coming back after 25 months, what did people change about food that stuck

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II

ok so the calorie floor question is the right one to ask. i would not go under 1200 without somebody keeping an eye on me

VL

im lifting and losing and i cant tell if im getting weaker or just lighter

is cold food easier for anyone else or is that just me

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AA

how do you eat enough when youre full after four bites

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