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#hplc-massspec 2026-02-08

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  • HPLC_Hank — i was wrong about tailing factor. it is usually the injection or the pH, not the column 19:28
  • HPLC_Hank — update on the earlier thing is monoisotopic or average mass the one on most certificates 19:35
  • ms_ms_mira — two labs a point or two apart on the same lot is normal and gets mistaken for one of them being wrong constantly a shoulder on a peak is information, and usually bad… 19:43
  • HPLC_Hank — whats a plus one dalton shift usually 22:31
MM

relative retention time against a standard is comparable between labs. absolute minutes are not
nobody runs enough blanks, including me

HH

i was wrong about tailing factor. it is usually the injection or the pH, not the column

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HH

update on the earlier thing is monoisotopic or average mass the one on most certificates

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update from 8 months ago: switched to asking for the chromatogram rather than the number and it changed everything, for what its worth

MM

two labs a point or two apart on the same lot is normal and gets mistaken for one of them being wrong constantly
a shoulder on a peak is information, and usually bad information

update on the earlier thing why do two labs integrate the same peak differently

unrelated but do you trust an area percent from a shallow gradient

deamidation is about plus 0.98 Da. it is not a rounding error, it is a degradant

ZZ

how would a truncation sequence show up
semaglutide is about 4113.6 Da. [M+2H]2+ lands near 2057.8, [M+3H]3+ near 1372.2

AN

oxidation is about plus 15.99 Da and is usually methionine or tryptophan

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TA

slightly off topic but is a tailing factor of anything specific a problem

ms/ms sequencing is the only thing i would call identity. everything else is circumstantial

HH

baseline drift on a gradient is normal. baseline drift on an isocratic hold is your column

AN

co-elution is the failure mode that a beautiful single peak is most likely to be hiding

PP

has anyone ever had a result where the mass was right and the purity was wrong

RR

i have had a lot where the mass was exactly right and the purity was 96.8. wrong question, right answer

shallow gradients hide related substances behind the main peak. a steeper one separates and looks worse, honestly

LM

you need more sample for identity than for purity. plan for that when you post it, anyway

TA

a warm transit can put a visible degradant peak on a chromatogram. that is what 11 days at ambient does

how much sample does a lab actually need for identity as well as purity

PP

coming back to this does ms/ms actually prove identity or just make it very likely

update on the earlier thing baseline is drifting badly, is that the column or the mobile phase

show me the spectrum

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HH

whats a plus one dalton shift usually

peak   RRT    area%    note
  1   0.42     0.31    solvent front
  2   0.88     0.44    related substance
  3   1.00    98.72    main
  4   1.14     0.53    related substance