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#retatrutide 2024-08-29

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  • apob_over_ldl — phase 2 was still trending at the end which is why the phase 3 readout matters more than usual 14:28
  • apob_over_ldl — low and slow here means smaller steps than i ever used on tirzepatide, thats the received wisdom 14:35
  • VialBot — Inter-lab diff for lot A-2418: 99.2% vs 96.8%. Within expected range. 14:36
  • pinch_not_stretch — VendorInvestigate came back 97.4 on one lot and 96.8 on the next from the same WWB, both fine 16:15
  • VialBot — Purity check: no report on file for lot A-2601. Nothing logged either way. 16:32
AO

phase 2 was still trending at the end which is why the phase 3 readout matters more than usual

Cited study
Triple–Hormone-Receptor Agonist Retatrutide for Obesity — A Phase 2 Trial
New England Journal of Medicine · 2023
48 weeks, dose-ranging. A Phase 2 result is not a safety record.
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AO

low and slow here means smaller steps than i ever used on tirzepatide, thats the received wisdom

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VB

Inter-lab diff for lot A-2418: 99.2% vs 96.8%. Within expected range.

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VL

sat at 2.4 for 5 months rather than climbing and it kept working, so i never went up

VL

genuine question the half life supports weekly dosing and thats what ive done from the start

AO

i said 7 months ago that my heart rate had settled and it has stayed settled since
triple agonist, GLP-1 and GIP and glucagon. the glucagon arm is the part with no long history

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FA

unrelated but whats a sensible starting point, im seeing everything from 0.5 to 2

FA

stopped for 6 months and restarted at half my old dose, the ramp was easier second time

PN

genuine question energy expenditure isnt something i could feel, though my sleep tracker disagreed with me, for what its worth

VendorInvestigate came back 97.4 on one lot and 96.8 on the next from the same WWB, both fine

research use only

VB

Purity check: no report on file for lot A-2601. Nothing logged either way.

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anyone logging resting heart rate on this
i log resting heart rate every morning because of this and its the one number i actually watch

AO

the heart rate thing is real enough that i mention it whenever someone asks about starting, for what its worth

TT

quick one phase 2 doses are published and theyre not far off what people here run, coincidence rather than plan

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TT

people insist on small steps because the side effects arrive faster than on the other two
stopped for 17 months and restarted at half my old dose, the ramp was easier second time

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TT

blood pressure stayed flat for me while heart rate moved, which i didnt expect

right so appetite suppression at 15 was stronger than my tirzepatide experience at a comparable point, your mileage will differ

anyone reconstituting 40 vials to 5 so the steps come out smaller

no long term data