low and slow
#retatrutide 2025-11-01
- typosquat_tay — TRIUMPH is the phase 3 programme, thats the name to search rather than the molecule 17:16
- VialBot — Reminder set. I will post here in 2 days. 18:49
- maintenance_mo — buying this is a completely different risk conversation from the licensed compounds and that gets said too rarely 20:15
- maintenance_mo — the half life supports weekly dosing and thats what ive done from the start 20:16
anyone logging resting heart rate on this
sorry to jump in appetite suppression at 2.4 was stronger than my tirzepatide experience at a comparable point
smaller steps here
my resting rate went up 6 bpm in the first month and came back most of the way by month 18
lost 41kg over 19 months at doses well under what the trials used, we shall see
triple agonist meaning GLP-1, GIP and glucagon, have i got that right
low and slow here means smaller steps than i ever used on tirzepatide, thats the received wisdom
right so does the glucagon arm explain the heart rate or is that unrelated
sat at 10 for 2 months rather than climbing and it kept working, so i never went up
TRIUMPH is the phase 3 programme, thats the name to search rather than the molecule
anyone stayed at 2.5 for months rather than climbing
why does everyone insist on smaller steps here than on the other two
people insist on small steps because the side effects arrive faster than on the other two
mine went up too
the honest position is this has less human evidence behind it than anything else discussed here
phase 2 was still trending at the end which is why the phase 3 readout matters more than usual
is the phase 2 dosing anywhere near what people here run
the heart rate thing is real enough that i mention it whenever someone asks about starting, we shall see
research use only is on every vial and i treat it as exactly that, nobody here is prescribing
glucagon is the new bit
did anyone come off because of the heart rate
watching my heart rate
research use only
held mine ages
held at 12 for 25 months and it never plateaued for me, which i cant explain, someone check my working
phase 2 only
did the phase 2 result actually come in higher than the tirzepatide numbers
[edited]no long term data
nobody should read my log as a plan, im recording what i did and thats all it is
the phase 2 weight result was larger than what the earlier agonists reported, in a smaller shorter trial
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i was wrong to call the heart rate a non issue last year, enough people logged it that i changed my mind, for what its worth
Reminder set. I will post here in 2 days.
stepping in 2 increments instead of doubling is the only thing i would change if i started again
how long before people saw the first change at 0.25
logging rhr daily
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there is no long term safety data, phase 2 and an ongoing phase 3 programme is what exists
coming back to this the glucagon arm is the mechanistic story for extra energy expenditure and its still a story to me
Janoshik came back 98.1 on one lot and 96.8 on the next from the same SGN, both fine, anyway
*Medutest not the other one
back after 20 months, has anything actually been published since
cant feel it honestly
settled by month three
buying this is a completely different risk conversation from the licensed compounds and that gets said too rarely
the half life supports weekly dosing and thats what ive done from the start
TRIUMPH is phase 3
for the archive is there any long term safety data at all or is it phase 2 and hope
anyone compared their PeptideMeter purity across two different QST lots
triple agonist yeah
is the glucagon arm what people mean by the energy expenditure thing
TRIUMPH is phase 3
reconstituted the 15 vial to 2.5mg/ml specifically so i could take 0.5 without measuring crumbs
i said 2 months ago that my heart rate had settled and it has stayed settled since
came off at 15 weeks because my resting rate stayed elevated and i didnt like it, happy to be corrected
is TRIUMPH the phase 3 programme
whats the half life like, is it weekly the same way
the honest position is this has less human evidence behind it than anything else discussed here
baseline 58
wk 2 61
wk 4 64
wk 6 67
wk 8 66
wk 10 65 (held dose from wk 7)energy expenditure isnt something i could feel, though my sleep tracker disagreed with me