nobody in here can tell you what a safe dose is because nobody has that number, and saying so is the honest answer
i keep a written note of every dose
Spun off from a message in #retatrutide on 2025-04-15. 17 messages, 5 participants.
- c18_column — being careful here i keep a written note of every dose and every number because in five years the data might be worth something, phase two is all we have. no label, no ladder 16:47
not generalising from that
what we actually know i log resting heart rate every morning because of this and its the one number i actually watch, happy to be pointed at better data
evidence standards apply
stepping in 2.5 increments instead of doubling is the only thing i would change if i started again
interesting mechanistically
energy expenditure isnt something i could feel, though my sleep tracker disagreed with me
phase 2 doses are published and theyre not far off what people here run, coincidence rather than plan, an assay would tell you more than a certificate
settled by month three
a baseline panel before starting is the only way to say anything at all about your own numbers afterwards, written down with the date
assays are worth having on anything in this channel because the reference material is scarcer, not medical advice, obviously
there is no long term safety data, phase 2 and an ongoing phase 3 programme is what exists, no idea if it generalises
from eight months of rhr data people here go in smaller steps because the evidence is thinner, and that is caution rather than pharmacology, that is extrapolation
being pedantic about the data here no idea whether the heart rate settles for everyone, mine did and one log isnt data, and there is no long term safety data
i was wrong to call the heart rate a non issue last year, enough people logged it that i changed my mind
strict channel so nobody here is your clinician and this channel is the last place that should be treated as one
phase 2 reading the honest answer is that the phase two data is what we have and it does not cover long term anything, happy to be pointed at better data