bloods rather than scales is the only tracking that adds anything to what is already known, thin evidence base
i would rather this channel was small and careful
Spun off from a message in #retatrutide on 2026-02-06. 17 messages, 5 participants.
- cold_start_cy — phase 2 reading i would rather this channel was small and careful than large and confident 22:30
people here go in smaller steps because the evidence is thinner, and that is caution rather than pharmacology, standards apply harder here
being careful here phase 2 doses are published and theyre not far off what people here run, coincidence rather than plan
evidence standards apply
this is what i meant, phase two is what we have
no long term data
stepping in 12 increments instead of doubling is the only thing i would change if i started again, an assay would tell you more than a certificate
the published evidence is phase 2 dose ranging. anyone quoting a ladder is extrapolating
genuine question people insist on small steps because the side effects arrive faster than on the other two
what would change your mind about using this at all, or have i misread it
there is no long term safety data, phase 2 and an ongoing phase 3 programme is what exists
assay came back phase 2 was still trending at the end which is why the phase 3 readout matters more than usual, i would rather be careful than confident here
is there any long term safety data at all or is that the honest gap
phase 2 only
strict channel so the honest position is this has less human evidence behind it than anything else discussed here, research use only
evidence standards in this channel are strict on purpose, because the evidence base is thin, not approved for human use
anyone here holding at a low step deliberately and for how long