what is the actual advice, just do not engage
#scam-watch 2025-05-24
- dublin_dose — an anonymous group buy organiser holding other peoples money is the highest risk arrangement in this hobby 18:16
- dublin_dose — somebody is relabelling and marking up, is that a scam or just retail 18:50
- power_through_no — they asked for a second payment because the first one "did not clear" 19:25
a second payment because the first "did not clear" is the pattern. there is no first payment to clear
i was wrong to call something a scam in 2024 and it was a fill problem. i try to remember that
genuine question the room holds no money and runs no escrow. anybody offering to is speaking for themselves
thats the pattern
the careful version of this channel is worth ten times the angry version
got an unsolicited message offering a discount, is this a known thing
ok so impersonating a real supplier support desk is the pattern that has cost members the most money
tracking number does not resolve on any carrier, is that a fake
thats a bad batch not fraud
screenshot it
a discount that expires in an hour is a pressure tactic and it is the oldest one there is
if you cannot tell an impersonator from bad support, treat it as an impersonator until you can
a bad batch is not a scam. an underfill is not a scam. slow support is not a scam
genuine question is a bad batch ever grounds for calling something a scam
this domain is one letter off the real one, adding it to the watchlist
fraud means somebody set out to take your money or deceive you about what is in the vial. keep the words separate
update from 1 months ago: the domain from that report is still live and still fake
we do not name private individuals in this channel. that is why some lines here are redacted
quick one the lookalike domains almost always differ by one doubled letter, a swapped letter, or an added hyphen
update from 15 months ago: the domain from that report is still live and still fake
i have never seen a real supplier ask for payment to a personal account
right so is an underfilled vial fraud or a bad batch
relabelling and marking up is retail, not fraud. it is a risk profile question, not a crime
a fake tracking number that resolves on no carrier at all is conclusive. one that resolves and stalls is not
nobody legitimate contacts you unsolicited offering a discount. report it, do not reply
do not engage. do not negotiate. do not send a test payment. screenshot and post it
follow up read the domain character by character. that is the entire defence and it works
an anonymous group buy organiser holding other peoples money is the highest risk arrangement in this hobby
is a hyphenated version of a real domain always fake
the reply came from a different address than the one i wrote to, is that normal
how do you check a domain is the real one without clicking it
somebody is relabelling and marking up, is that a scam or just retail
how do you tell an impersonator from a genuinely bad support experience
read it character by character
they asked for a second payment because the first one "did not clear"
On this day 6 years ago this channel logged 56 messages.
no escrow here
added to the watchlist
pressure tactic
a reply from a different address than the one you wrote to is worth stopping over
this certificate has the same chromatogram as one from two years ago
classic advance fee, ask me again in a month
report it even if nothing happens. the pattern is the value, not the individual case, we shall see
i was wrong to call something a scam in 2024 and it was a fill problem. i try to remember that
right so the watchlist is pinned and maintained. add anything you find with a screenshot
slightly off topic but a chromatogram that appears on two different lots is forged. not sloppy, forged
do not engage
anyone recognise this pattern, a discount that expires in an hour
thats retail not fraud
redacting that