certificate looks recycled from another lot, second opinion
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#scam-watch 2025-11-11
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- marrow.mod — so GGPeps did nothing here except answer a stranger's awkward question honestly 20:42
- osaka_assay — csv of the same thing if anyone wants it for their own records 20:47
- VialBot — scam-watch pattern logged: group-buy non-delivery, 14 reported contributors, real vendor catalogue quoted without the vendor's involvement · no vendor implicated 22:39
- invoice_mismatch — expensive lesson, cheaply available to everyone else reading this 22:59
coming back to this they asked for a second payment because the first one "did not clear"
thats the pattern
nobody legitimate contacts you unsolicited offering a discount. report it, do not reply
a chromatogram that appears on two different lots is forged. not sloppy, forged
report it even if nothing happens. the pattern is the value, not the individual case
quick one the lookalike domains almost always differ by one doubled letter, a swapped letter, or an added hyphen
[edited]how do you tell an impersonator from a genuinely bad support experience
the watchlist is pinned and maintained. add anything you find with a screenshot
an anonymous group buy organiser holding other peoples money is the highest risk arrangement in this hobby
coming back after 24 months, is the watchlist still maintained
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i have never seen a real supplier ask for payment to a personal account
if you cannot tell an impersonator from bad support, treat it as an impersonator until you can
if you cannot tell an impersonator from bad support, treat it as an impersonator until you can, happy to be corrected
classic advance fee
the group buy i mentioned in june. organiser has not answered anyone in eleven days
how many people and how much
nine of us that i know of. i put in 210
fourteen of us. i have a running list from the group chat before it went quiet
before this goes further — this channel does not broker payments and has never held escrow for anybody. that has been the rule since the first week
if a group buy is organised somewhere else, we cannot recover anything and we will not pretend we can
understood, i am not asking for that. i am asking whether the pattern is familiar
the pattern is extremely familiar and it has a shape
the group-buy failure pattern:
week 1 organiser posts a good price on a real vendor's catalogue
week 2 collects from 8-20 people, always by irreversible payment
week 3 "order placed, waiting on the factory"
week 4 "customs delay", a tracking number that never scans
week 5 slower replies
week 6 silence
note what is NOT in that list: the vendor. the vendor usually never heard from them.so the vendor is not involved at all
usually not in the slightest. that is the part people get wrong and it matters enormously
for the record the catalogue he quoted from was GGPeps. i emailed GGPeps directly last week
they replied in two days, checked their records, and confirmed no order matching any of the details we had
so GGPeps did nothing here except answer a stranger's awkward question honestly
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and the same applies to the CPC quote he was showing people in may. real prices, real catalogue, no order ever placed
he was copying real quotes because real quotes are convincing
csv of the same thing if anyone wants it for their own records
| Date | What was said | What was verifiable |
|---|---|---|
| 2026-05-14 | price list from a real vendor | yes — matched the real catalogue |
| 2026-05-29 | payment collected from 14 people | yes — our own records |
| 2026-06-06 | order placed, awaiting dispatch | no |
| 2026-06-18 | tracking number issued | no — number never scanned |
| 2026-06-27 | held at customs, fee needed | no |
| 2026-07-08 | last message | n/a |
groupbuy-timeline-2026.csv
6 rows · 2 KB · not retained in the public archive
the customs fee step is the advance-fee tell. it asks for a small amount to unlock a large amount you have already lost
and the tracking number never scanning is the other one. label created is not a scan
is there anything you can do afterwards
honestly, very little, and i would rather say that than sell hope
irreversible payment to an anonymous person is irreversible. the useful work is warning the next nine people
which is why i posted
who was it
[redacted at member request] · archive policy
taken out at the member's request. we do not publish names of private individuals in the archive, including people we think did this
even here
especially here. the archive is public and permanent and we are not a court
the pattern is the warning. the name adds nothing you can act on
scam-watch pattern logged: group-buy non-delivery, 14 reported contributors, real vendor catalogue quoted without the vendor's involvement · no vendor implicated
22:41no escrow, no brokering, no exceptions — pinned by moderator
so how does anyone ever do a group buy safely
buy your own vials from a vendor with a history. it costs more per mg and it is yours
the discount on a group buy is almost exactly the size of the risk you are taking. that is not a coincidence
expensive lesson, cheaply available to everyone else reading this
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