unsolicited message came in and fraud is a separate matter from a shipping question and this room keeps those words apart on purpose, lifted from a real certificate probably
i was wrong to call something a scam
Spun off from a message in #scam-watch on 2025-05-14. 14 messages, 4 participants.
- nordic_price_nils — not naming anyone but i was wrong to call something a scam in 2024 and it was a fill problem. i try to remember that 20:46
we describe patterns and we do not name people, because a wrong name in a searchable archive is a real harm
yeah thats the bit, does the reference exist
never has been
do not engage. do not negotiate. do not send a test payment. screenshot and post it, pressure is the tell
flagging this the logo is right but the address is wrong, what does that usually mean, no rush
a site that cannot produce a lot specific certificate for anything is telling you what it is, reported and screenshotted
thats the full set
if you have lost money, the useful next steps are your bank and your card provider, in that order
no escrow here
less good news we do not name private individuals in this channel. that is why some lines here are redacted
screenshot with the url
these sites are cheap to stand up and cheap to abandon. the same operation reappears under a new name, this is a quality issue, wrong channel
anyone had a lifted certificate confirmed by the original lab, i did search first