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#semaglutide 2024-05-07

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  • a1c_lag — the long half life flattens the trough more than people expect, i never felt a day seven dip 10:45
  • apob_over_ldl — SELECT was cardiovascular outcomes in people with overweight and existing disease, not a weight trial 10:58
  • lot_number_lou — went to 2.4 and the extra suppression wasnt worth the GI for me, so i came back down 11:27
LN

my plateau was the scale stopping while appetite stayed suppressed, which is a different problem, ymmv

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FLOW was the kidney outcomes trial and it gets quoted in here for things it didnt measure

SO

is the plateau at 17 weeks normal or am i doing something wrong

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AO

held at 12 and lost 9lb over 4 months, slower than the trials and fine by me

€38 a month for compounded against what brand costs locally is why most people here use vials

A1

vial units and pen clicks are different systems, mixing the two is how people end up wrong

Cited study
Once-Weekly Semaglutide in Adults with Overweight or Obesity and Type 2 Diabetes (STEP 2)
The Lancet · 2021
The type 2 diabetes population, where the weight response is generally smaller.

the long half life flattens the trough more than people expect, i never felt a day seven dip

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the plateau hit me at 28 weeks and moved again about a month later without a dose change

quick one i was wrong about the ceiling for a year, i thought 3 existed. it doesnt for the weight indication

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AO

SELECT was cardiovascular outcomes in people with overweight and existing disease, not a weight trial

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance
A1

slightly off topic but how many weeks before you noticed anything at 0.5

LN

went to 2.4 and the extra suppression wasnt worth the GI for me, so i came back down

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PT

my VendorInvestigate report on the BCH vial came back 99.2 against a certificate saying 98.1

five week steps worked better for me than four, purely on how the second week felt

PT

changed my mind on the four week rule, i think it depends entirely on how the current dose feels

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance