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#semaglutide 2025-04-05

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  • no_appetite_nia — quick one anyone compared their 5 vial dosing against the pen increments 13:38
  • no_appetite_nia — right so is the plateau at 27 weeks normal or am i doing something wrong 14:02
  • half_life_hal — the plateau hit me at 20 weeks and moved again about a month later without a dose change going slow cost me nothing except time and saved me two bad weeks, thats my… 14:03
  • two_three_lifts — moving my dose day by a day or two never did anything noticeable for me 15:24
  • no_appetite_nia — held at 0.25 and lost 13lb over 12 months, slower than the trials and fine by me i dont think the plateau is a dose problem most of the time, but i cant prove that 16:55
NA

quick one anyone compared their 5 vial dosing against the pen increments

Cited study
Tirzepatide versus Semaglutide Once Weekly in Type 2 Diabetes (SURPASS-2)
New England Journal of Medicine · 2021
The head-to-head everyone quotes. Note the semaglutide comparator dose.
NA

the long half life flattens the trough more than people expect, i never felt a day seven dip
dose day is sunday for me only because thats when i remember, not because sunday matters

same dose day

slower worked better

i was wrong about the ceiling for a year, i thought 3 existed. it doesnt for the weight indication, thats one data point

five week steps worked better for me than four, purely on how the second week felt

steady state is the bit people skip, judging a new dose after eight days tells you almost nothing

right so is the plateau at 27 weeks normal or am i doing something wrong

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HL

the plateau hit me at 20 weeks and moved again about a month later without a dose change
going slow cost me nothing except time and saved me two bad weeks, thats my whole contribution

wk 1-4    0.25mg
wk 5-10   0.50mg   (held 2 extra weeks)
wk 11-14  1.00mg
wk 15-26  1.70mg   (held, long)
wk 27+    2.40mg

STEP 1 ran to 68 weeks. thats the one everyone half remembers, ymmv

HL

dose day is sunday for me only because thats when i remember, not because sunday matters

HL

went to 2.4 and the extra suppression wasnt worth the GI for me, so i came back down
the appetite effect faded for me around 2 months and going up fixed it for a while

SD

STEP 4 had the withdrawal arm, thats the one people quote when they talk about stopping

*PeptideMeter not the other one

moving my dose day by a day or two never did anything noticeable for me

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance
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HL

does moving my dose day by two days matter with a seven day half life
the trials titrated on a fixed schedule, most people here dont, worth remembering when comparing

SS

does the licensed ceiling for weight differ from the diabetes one

FF

compounded and brand felt the same to me at 7.5, which is one person and nothing more

GB

£120 a month for compounded against what brand costs locally is why most people here use vials

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FF

my plateau was the scale stopping while appetite stayed suppressed, which is a different problem

half life is about a week so youre roughly four to five weeks to steady state on any new dose

mine faded too

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while im here did anyone titrate slower than four weeks a step and how did that go

NA

held at 0.25 and lost 13lb over 12 months, slower than the trials and fine by me
i dont think the plateau is a dose problem most of the time, but i cant prove that

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i dont think the plateau is a dose problem most of the time, but i cant prove that

FLOW was the kidney outcomes trial and it gets quoted in here for things it didnt measure

going slow cost me nothing except time and saved me two bad weeks, thats my whole contribution

thats STEP 1

my VendorInvestigate report on the SSA vial came back 99.4 against a certificate saying 98.1

licensed ceiling for weight is 2.4 weekly, anything above that is not a licensed dose

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MP

the appetite effect faded for me around 10 months and going up fixed it for a while