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#semaglutide 2025-06-17

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  • hot_mailbox — i dont think the plateau is a dose problem most of the time, but i cant prove that 22:25
  • plus_sixteen — licensed ceiling for weight is 2.4 weekly, anything above that is not a licensed dose 22:54
  • underfill_uma — restarted after 24 months off at a low dose and the nausea arrived exactly like the first time 23:33
VV

genuine question im at 0.25 and stuck, did anyone break a plateau without going up

TT

slightly off topic but lost about 14kg on the low doses before i even got to 1, which surprised me

follow up STEP 1 ran to 68 weeks. thats the one everyone half remembers

my plateau was the scale stopping while appetite stayed suppressed, which is a different problem

my 2 vial in 3ml gives 5mg/ml so 0.25 lands on 5 units, thats why i picked that volume

vials not pens here

HM

the plateau hit me at 18 weeks and moved again about a month later without a dose change

VB

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not the same trial

HM

update on the earlier thing i stayed on 1.7 for 1 months and never went to 2.4, appetite was already where i needed it

RS

i held at 0.5 for 4 months and it was the best decision i made, not advice obviously

HM

i dont think the plateau is a dose problem most of the time, but i cant prove that

wk 1-4    0.25mg
wk 5-10   0.50mg   (held 2 extra weeks)
wk 11-14  1.00mg
wk 15-26  1.70mg   (held, long)
wk 27+    2.40mg
AP

the appetite effect faded for me around 10 months and going up fixed it for a while, we shall see
i was wrong about the ceiling for a year, i thought 3 existed. it doesnt for the weight indication

STEP is several trials, so saying STEP said x is usually wrong without a number after it, for what its worth

AA

vial units and pen clicks are different systems, mixing the two is how people end up wrong

£55 a month for compounded against what brand costs locally is why most people here use vials

changed my mind on the four week rule, i think it depends entirely on how the current dose feels

RS

half life is about a week so youre roughly four to five weeks to steady state on any new dose

AO

went 1 to 1.7 too fast and spent two weeks regretting it, dropped back and repeated the step

im 9 months in at 2.4 and the appetite effect faded, is that a thing
went to 2.4 and the extra suppression wasnt worth the GI for me, so i came back down

*Janoshik not the other one

RS

going slow cost me nothing except time and saved me two bad weeks, thats my whole contribution

AA

FLOW was the kidney outcomes trial and it gets quoted in here for things it didnt measure

PS

26 months at 2.4 and the honest summary is diminishing returns after the first half

SELECT wasnt weight

the long half life flattens the trough more than people expect, i never felt a day seven dip

for the archive what did SELECT actually measure, i see it quoted for everything

licensed ceiling for weight is 2.4 weekly, anything above that is not a licensed dose

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AA

five week steps worked better for me than four, purely on how the second week felt

does the seven day half life mean the last two days are weaker

mine faded too

did the STEP 4 withdrawal arm show what i think it showed

dose day is sunday for me only because thats when i remember, not because sunday matters

VL

the trials titrated on a fixed schedule, most people here dont, worth remembering when comparing

seven days ish

if youre comparing brand to compounded, dose accuracy in the vial is the variable, not the molecule

thats STEP 1

compounded and brand felt the same to me at 2.5, which is one person and nothing more

VL

held at 5 and lost 104lb over 4 months, slower than the trials and fine by me

did anyone titrate slower than four weeks a step and how did that go

Cited study
Effects of Semaglutide on Chronic Kidney Disease in Type 2 Diabetes (FLOW)
New England Journal of Medicine · 2024
Renal outcomes. The one that changed a lot of nephrologists’ minds.
UU

restarted after 24 months off at a low dose and the nausea arrived exactly like the first time

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A1

how did people handle the jump from 1 to 1.7

Cited study
Effect of Semaglutide Coadministered with Intensive Behavioural Therapy (STEP 3)
JAMA · 2021
Semaglutide plus intensive behavioural therapy and a low-calorie diet run-in.

anyone gone from 7.5 straight to 5 or is that too big a jump

A1

i was wrong about the ceiling for a year, i thought 3 existed. it doesnt for the weight indication

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A1

my Medutest report on the WXT vial came back 99.4 against a certificate saying 96.8