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#semaglutide 2025-11-10

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  • no_escrow_nate — STEP 1 ran to 68 weeks. thats the one everyone half remembers 19:59
  • surpass_two — STEP 4 had the withdrawal arm, thats the one people quote when they talk about stopping 20:12
  • half_life_hal — coming back to this 17 months at 2.4 and the honest summary is diminishing returns after the first half 20:25
  • half_life_hal — FLOW was the kidney outcomes trial and it gets quoted in here for things it didnt measure 21:47

sorry to jump in SELECT was cardiovascular outcomes in people with overweight and existing disease, not a weight trial, ymmv

NE

STEP 1 ran to 68 weeks. thats the one everyone half remembers

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ST

vial units and pen clicks are different systems, mixing the two is how people end up wrong

ST

five week steps worked better for me than four, purely on how the second week felt

STEP 4 had the withdrawal arm, thats the one people quote when they talk about stopping

Cited study
Semaglutide vs Liraglutide for Weight Loss in Adults with Overweight or Obesity (STEP 8)
JAMA · 2022
Weekly against daily, head to head.
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NE

compounded and brand felt the same to me at 10, which is one person and nothing more

HL

coming back to this 17 months at 2.4 and the honest summary is diminishing returns after the first half

wk 1-4    0.25mg
wk 5-10   0.50mg   (held 2 extra weeks)
wk 11-14  1.00mg
wk 15-26  1.70mg   (held, long)
wk 27+    2.40mg
NE

going slow cost me nothing except time and saved me two bad weeks, thats my whole contribution

my 20 vial in 2ml gives 2.5mg/ml so 7.5 lands on 8 units, thats why i picked that volume

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HL

follow up does the licensed ceiling for weight differ from the diabetes one

UD

coming back to this the plateau hit me at 33 weeks and moved again about a month later without a dose change

SO

moving my dose day by a day or two never did anything noticeable for me

HL

FLOW was the kidney outcomes trial and it gets quoted in here for things it didnt measure

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance
SI

STEP is several trials, so saying STEP said x is usually wrong without a number after it

UD

my plateau was the scale stopping while appetite stayed suppressed, which is a different problem

VV

does the seven day half life mean the last two days are weaker

NE

slightly off topic but whats the actual licensed ceiling, i keep seeing different numbers

*PeptideMeter not the other one

steady state takes weeks

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NE

slower worked better

coa-d-0718.pdf
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