escalation is when most of the trouble happens, not the absolute dose
#side-effects 2024-06-15
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- vial_ledger — severe persistent pain radiating to the back, or repeated vomiting you cannot keep water down through, is not a chat question 21:25
- abdo_two_inch — has anyone had a side effect that got worse at a lower dose 21:39
- abdo_two_inch — magnesium citrate worked for me where oxide did nothing. that might just be absorption 22:00
- gradient_greg — if you are under 1000 calories by accident that is a problem, not discipline 23:35
protein and iron are worth checking if the hair thing is dragging on past six months
new severe right upper quadrant pain after fast weight loss is a get seen situation, not advice obviously
the dose day matters more than the dose for the GI stuff, at least for me
magnesium citrate worked for me where oxide did nothing. that might just be absorption
update from 12 months ago: the nausea did settle, around week seven, completely, from memory
taste changes settled for me around week eight and never fully came back
genuine question my resting heart rate went up a few bpm and stayed there. worth logging from baseline
protein
if a side effect is new and severe rather than familiar and annoying, that is the line
genuine question, at what point does this stop being tolerable and start being a reason to stop
powering through is how people quit entirely. reducing is how people stay on it
the shed usually starts month three to four and usually stops. it tracks how fast you are losing
nobody here can tell you whether a symptom is serious. we can tell you the ones that are always worth checking
severe persistent pain radiating to the back, or repeated vomiting you cannot keep water down through, is not a chat question
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week 14 and still nauseous, at what point is this not going to settle
ginger did nothing for me and worked for two other people here. thats where the evidence is at
if you have stopped enjoying food entirely and are not eating, say so, we will help you build meals
day two is the worst
has anyone had a side effect that got worse at a lower dose
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a lot of what people call fatigue on this stuff turns out to be dehydration or undereating, ymmv
dropping back a rung for a fortnight is a completely legitimate move
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whats actually worked for anyone on the constipation, ive tried everything
let the alcohol dry before you inject. that alone fixes a lot of the stinging, anyway
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i lost my gallbladder in 2024 and i tell people that not to frighten them but because slowing down is free
eat more
magnesium citrate worked for me where oxide did nothing. that might just be absorption
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unrelated but anyone get properly wiped out for a day or two after the dose
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my injection site itched for three days, normal
sorry to jump in anyone found the fatigue lifted when they fixed their protein
*Janoshik not the other one
i keep a one line note per day. it is the only way i could see the pattern
drop a rung
electrolytes made more difference to my fatigue than anything else i tried
hope it settles
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it does stop
do you drop back a dose for side effects or push through
if you are under 1000 calories by accident that is a problem, not discipline
dose day = d0
0.25mg nothing much
0.50mg d1-d2 mild
1.00mg d1-d3 moderate
1.70mg d1-d2 moderate, d4 fine
2.40mg d1 rough, gone by d3fibre before pills