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#storage-coldchain 2026-03-12

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  • private_script_pri — freeze thaw cycling is the risk, not one freeze. that is my read of it anyway 22:28
  • net_peptide — anyone had a vial visibly change after a warm transit 22:46
  • thirty_one_g — sorry to jump in buy a thermometer. mine reads 7.4 on the door and two degrees lower at the back 22:50
  • fridge_six_two — the door swings four or five degrees every time somebody opens it. the back barely moves 23:31
AV

power cut for 7 hours, fridge stayed shut, am i fine

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unrelated but anyone tested a vial before and after a bad transit

mon  4.1 / door 7.2
tue  4.0 / door 7.8
wed  4.2 / door 6.9
thu  3.9 / door 7.4
fri  4.1 / door 8.1   <- shopping day
sat  4.3 / door 7.0
sun  4.0 / door 6.8

if you are worried after a bad transit, test it. that is what the testing channels are for

solution is not

thats fine

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freeze thaw cycling is the risk, not one freeze. that is my read of it anyway

mon  4.1 / door 7.2
tue  4.0 / door 7.8
wed  4.2 / door 6.9
thu  3.9 / door 7.4
fri  4.1 / door 8.1   <- shopping day
sat  4.3 / door 7.0
sun  4.0 / door 6.8

gel packs

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how long is reconstituted actually good for at room temperature

TO

two to eight degrees. most domestic fridge doors are not in that range and people do not check

do you log the fridge temperature or is that too far

NP

a liquid cold pack tells you it was above freezing, not that your vial cooked

TO

sorry to jump in a few hours at room temperature is almost certainly nothing. a week is a different conversation, thats just me

PM

not the door

mon  4.1 / door 7.2
tue  4.0 / door 7.8
wed  4.2 / door 6.9
thu  3.9 / door 7.4
fri  4.1 / door 8.1   <- shopping day
sat  4.3 / door 7.0
sun  4.0 / door 6.8
TO

update from 24 months ago: replaced the fridge, temperature is stable, no more anxiety, ymmv

not the freezer

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freeze debate again

NP

anyone had a vial visibly change after a warm transit

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sorry to jump in buy a thermometer. mine reads 7.4 on the door and two degrees lower at the back

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ST

do i need to worry about light exposure or is that overthinking

the vial that visibly changed after a warm transit was the one that had already been reconstituted

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ST

light exposure matters much less than temperature for these. i still keep them in the carton

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FS

powder is robust

mon  4.1 / door 7.2
tue  4.0 / door 7.8
wed  4.2 / door 6.9
thu  3.9 / door 7.4
fri  4.1 / door 8.1   <- shopping day
sat  4.3 / door 7.0
sun  4.0 / door 6.8
FS

freezing reconstituted peptide is the one thing this channel has never agreed on, i could be wrong

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how cold is too cold, can it actually freeze in a normal fridge

i freeze aliquots and have had them test fine afterwards. others here would not do it and i understand why

i have never had a lyophilised vial fail after a warm transit and i have had some bad ones

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i would use it

PM

i log the fridge temperature daily and the room has never let me forget it

FS

power cut with the door shut for a few hours is fine. a full fridge holds temperature surprisingly well

AV

i left a reconstituted vial out overnight once, sent it for testing out of curiosity, it came back fine, ymmv

FS

lyophilised powder is genuinely robust. a warm transit is far less likely to matter than people fear

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unopened and in-use in the same place is fine. just keep the in-use one where you can reach it

VB

Testing queue: 7 submissions open, 79 awaiting dispatch.

BR

hotel minibars are frequently not cold enough. i take a thermometer, which is ridiculous and also correct, from memory

FS

the door swings four or five degrees every time somebody opens it. the back barely moves

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reconstituted solution is the fragile part. that is where the cold chain actually earns its keep

BR

the practical risk in winter shipping is freezing, and in summer it is heat. plan for the season you are in

two to eight

ConditionLyophilisedReconstituted
2-8 °Cfine, long termfine, weeks
Room temp, daysfine in every report herereported fine, shorter
Room temp, weeksreported finedo not
Warm transit, 30 °C+no failure loggedone visible degradant peak
Frozen oncefinecontested, no consensus
Freeze-thaw cycledfinethe room says no
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AA

i left it out overnight by accident, bin it or use it

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i keep everything at the back of the middle shelf, never the door, ask me again in a month

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quick one test it