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#storage-coldchain 2026-06-23

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  • kelp_keeps — a few hours at room temperature is almost certainly nothing. a week is a different conversation, not advice obviously i left a reconstituted vial out overnight once,… 12:10
  • kelp_keeps — for flying, hand luggage every time. the hold is not temperature controlled the way people assume, still working it out 12:36
  • kelp_keeps — i have never had a lyophilised vial fail after a warm transit and i have had some bad ones 12:38
KK

a few hours at room temperature is almost certainly nothing. a week is a different conversation, not advice obviously
i left a reconstituted vial out overnight once, sent it for testing out of curiosity, it came back fine

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II

i left a reconstituted vial out overnight once, sent it for testing out of curiosity, it came back fine

II

buy a thermometer. mine reads 5.6 on the door and two degrees lower at the back, i have it written down somewhere

KK

hotel minibars are frequently not cold enough. i take a thermometer, which is ridiculous and also correct

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do i need to worry about light exposure or is that overthinking

buy a thermometer

how do you keep it cold on a long drive in summer

for flying, hand luggage every time. the hold is not temperature controlled the way people assume, still working it out

mon  4.1 / door 7.2
tue  4.0 / door 7.8
wed  4.2 / door 6.9
thu  3.9 / door 7.4
fri  4.1 / door 8.1   <- shopping day
sat  4.3 / door 7.0
sun  4.0 / door 6.8
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i have never had a lyophilised vial fail after a warm transit and i have had some bad ones

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back of the fridge

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KK

quick one the door swings four or five degrees every time somebody opens it. the back barely moves

VI

while im here how cold is too cold, can it actually freeze in a normal fridge

i freeze aliquots and have had them test fine afterwards. others here would not do it and i understand why

KK

lyophilised powder is genuinely robust. a warm transit is far less likely to matter than people fear

KF

i keep everything at the back of the middle shelf, never the door

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KF

a cooler with two gel packs held under eight degrees for eleven hours on a drive

LL

update from 4 months ago: replaced the fridge, temperature is stable, no more anxiety

the practical risk in winter shipping is freezing, and in summer it is heat. plan for the season you are in

LL

sorry to jump in freeze thaw cycling is the risk, not one freeze. that is my read of it anyway

parcel sat in a hot mailbox for 7 hours, is it dead

a liquid cold pack tells you it was above freezing, not that your vial cooked

KF

power cut with the door shut for a few hours is fine. a full fridge holds temperature surprisingly well

anyone had a vial visibly change after a warm transit

LL

the vial that visibly changed after a warm transit was the one that had already been reconstituted

LL

two to eight degrees. most domestic fridge doors are not in that range and people do not check

HM

if you are worried after a bad transit, test it. that is what the testing channels are for

LL

i log the fridge temperature daily and the room has never let me forget it, for what its worth

i would bin it

coming back after 26 months, is the pinned storage table still current

VI

right so is there a difference in stability between the compounds

II

light exposure matters much less than temperature for these. i still keep them in the carton

*Janoshik not the other one