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#test-results 2024-12-19

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  • deamidation — it is the opposite of a cop-out. claiming to know which one is right when four variables differ would be the cop-out 16:17
  • taper_tess — if you wanted to actually test this you would split one vial, send halves to two labs on the same day, in the same packaging 16:19
  • knees_first — so if my number is 99.1 and yours is 96.8 the lot is somewhere around 98 and change and neither of us should quote our own figure as the truth 16:31
  • meal_prep_mick — Hubei Jianxiang did that with one of mine, quoted the number without the context. i asked them to add the lot and date and they did, which surprised me 16:37
  • marrow.mod — this is how it is meant to go. two people disagreeing and nobody being called a shill 17:05
TT

certificate said 98.1 and the independent came back 97.4, is that a problem

LM

is a purity-only test worth the money if underfill is the common failure

LM

i have never regretted spending the money on a test. i have regretted not testing twice

TT

post the lot, the purchase month, the lab, the number, and what you were expecting. that makes it useful later

LM

posting my Janoshik result on lot F-1330, what do people make of it

whats the worst result anyone has logged and what happened next

coming back after 23 months with a follow up result, where do i put it

if the vial has been through a bad transit you are testing the transit as much as the supplier

TT

weigh the vial before you reconstitute. it costs nothing and catches the common failure, for what its worth

is it worth testing if the vial has already been through a warm transit

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the results in this channel skew because people test when they are suspicious. that is selection bias and it is real

LM

coming back to this my vial assayed under label but the purity was fine, which matters more

LM

a single sample tells you about a single vial. that is genuinely all it tells you

KF

so this is awkward. same lot, two of us tested, 99.1% and 96.8%

DE

good. this is the useful kind of disagreement. list the differences before anyone theorises

KF

mine: sealed vial, sent February, Janoshik, arrived in four days

MP

mine: decanted, sent April, different lab, arrived in nine, vial had been in a fridge that got opened forty times a day

TT

there are four independent differences there and any one of them could carry two points

DE

so the honest answer is the two results are not comparable, and the disagreement is not evidence about the lot

DE

it is the opposite of a cop-out. claiming to know which one is right when four variables differ would be the cop-out

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TT

if you wanted to actually test this you would split one vial, send halves to two labs on the same day, in the same packaging

MM

we did it once in 2025 and the answer was 1.3 points apart, which was the least dramatic outcome available

DE

and completely consistent with what you would expect from method differences alone

KF

so if my number is 99.1 and yours is 96.8 the lot is somewhere around 98 and change and neither of us should quote our own figure as the truth

MP

Hubei Jianxiang did that with one of mine, quoted the number without the context. i asked them to add the lot and date and they did, which surprised me

KF

the Sangon lot is the one i actually care about. do we call this resolved

DE

we call it unresolved and low-concern. no result under 96, two results, poor comparability

MP

for the record i am not withdrawing my number, i still think my vial was worse than his

MM

this is how it is meant to go. two people disagreeing and nobody being called a shill

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KF

next round i will split with you directly so we are testing the same powder