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#test-results 2025-01-13

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  • nordic_price_nils — is quantity testing available as a separate thing or bundled 20:18
  • batch_bandit — i told TFC about a result they would not have liked and they did not argue. credit where it is due, i think 20:33
  • assay_not_purity — right so whats the worst result anyone has logged and what happened next 20:53
  • batch_bandit — log the boring results too. a channel that only records failures produces a false picture 21:43
NP

unrelated but a single sample tells you about a single vial. that is genuinely all it tells you

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BD

if the vial has been through a bad transit you are testing the transit as much as the supplier, anyway

thats within range

NP

is quantity testing available as a separate thing or bundled

lot        bought    purity   assay/label
A-2418     2025-03   99.1%    9.6 / 10mg
A-2601     2025-08   98.7%    9.8 / 10mg
B-0114     2026-01   99.3%    9.4 / 10mg
B-0329     2026-04   98.9%    9.9 / 10mg

i told TFC about a result they would not have liked and they did not argue. credit where it is due, i think

lot        bought    purity   assay/label
A-2418     2025-03   99.1%    9.6 / 10mg
A-2601     2025-08   98.7%    9.8 / 10mg
B-0114     2026-01   99.3%    9.4 / 10mg
B-0329     2026-04   98.9%    9.9 / 10mg
AN

update from 22 months ago: retested the same supplier, result came back better, logged both
post the lot, the purchase month, the lab, the number, and what you were expecting. that makes it useful later

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right so whats the worst result anyone has logged and what happened next

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BB

my sheet has 7 lots from ERP with a spread under a point, which is tight

BB

how many lots do you need before you can say anything about a supplier

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BB

follow up weigh the vial before you reconstitute. it costs nothing and catches the common failure

what interests me is when the gap goes the same direction every time. once is noise, three times is a pattern

MP

post the lot, the purchase month, the lab, the number, and what you were expecting. that makes it useful later

genuine question how do you separate batch variance from supplier variance

MP

a supplier disputing a result is rare here and it has never gone well for the supplier, take that with a pinch of salt

my read after three years of this: purity is mostly fine across the market and fill consistency is where suppliers differ

BB

i have never regretted spending the money on a test. i have regretted not testing twice
sample handling on your end absolutely affects it. draw cleanly, ship fast, do not let it sit warm

nice result

log the boring results too. a channel that only records failures produces a false picture

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underfill is more common than impurity. if you only test purity you are testing the less likely failure

i had a result i am fairly sure was a handling error on my side and i logged it as such, your mileage will differ

do you test every order or sample it

EvidenceCounts?
Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legibleyes
Independent report, no lot numberno
Supplier certificate onlyno
Screenshot of a reportno
Blinded pooled submissionyes, for the pool
A friend who said it was fineno

97.4 against a certificate of 96.8 is fine. the same supplier landing low four times in a row is a question

assay under label with good purity means you got less of the right thing. that is a fill problem, not a synthesis problem

sample handling on your end absolutely affects it. draw cleanly, ship fast, do not let it sit warm

one bad test does not condemn a supplier. one good test does not clear one. both halves get ignored equally

RW

the widest spread in my data is about 2.6 percentage points across five lots from one supplier