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#test-results 2025-04-26

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Highlights from this day
  • coa_or_cope — summarised by quarter so it is readable 16:32
  • VialBot — aggregate lookup — WuXi TIDES: 31 community results on file · median purity 98.9% · median content 9.6 mg · 6 results flagged as handling-compromised · oldest 2024-06 17:33
  • LC_MS_Lena — yes. trust and evidence are inversely correlated in this market and that should bother people more than it does 17:58
  • coa_or_cope — correct. the reputation belongs to the manufacturer, the vial belongs to whoever repacked it 18:08
VB

Testing queue: 4 submissions open, 50 awaiting dispatch.

what interests me is when the gap goes the same direction every time. once is noise, three times is a pattern

do you test every order or sample it

nice result

quantity testing is usually a separate line item and it is the one worth paying for, your mileage will differ

TA

a supplier disputing a result is rare here and it has never gone well for the supplier

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CO

update from the thing i asked about in the spring. i have kept every result on one vendor for two years and here it is

wxt-longitudinal-2024-2026.csv
23 rows · 4 KB · not retained in the public archive

summarised by quarter so it is readable

QuarterLots testedPurity rangeContent rangeLabs used
2024 Q3298.6 – 99.2%9.6 – 9.9 mgJanoshik
2024 Q4398.1 – 99.4%9.1 – 10.0 mgJanoshik
2025 Q1297.4 – 99.1%8.9 – 9.8 mgJanoshik, Medutest
2025 Q2199.0%9.9 mgMedutest
2025 Q3398.8 – 99.5%9.5 – 10.1 mgJanoshik
2025 Q4298.2 – 98.9%9.3 – 9.7 mgJanoshik
2026 Q1298.9 – 99.3%9.6 – 9.9 mgJanoshik, Medutest
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WZ

that is the most reassuring table i have seen on this site

LM

it is a good dataset by our standards. let me now take some air out of it

LM

fifteen lots over two years from one buyer, mostly one lab, all sent by the same person with the same habits.
what it shows well: no drift, no bad quarter, no surprise.
what it cannot show: whether you are getting a different product line to a first-time buyer, and whether the lots you happened to buy are representative.
repeat customers sometimes get better boxes. that is not paranoia, it is a normal commercial behaviour

CO

i have wondered about that. no way to test it without a second identity and i am not doing that

TA

someone did do that in 2024 with two addresses and the results were indistinguishable, for one vendor, once

LM

which is one data point against a real hypothesis. i will take it

VB

aggregate lookup — WuXi TIDES: 31 community results on file · median purity 98.9% · median content 9.6 mg · 6 results flagged as handling-compromised · oldest 2024-06

CO

we do, by hand, when the submitter tells us the sample got mishandled. it is voluntary and therefore incomplete

LM

and that flag is the single most valuable column in the whole dataset because it is the only one that admits its own error

CO

hardly anyone tests Bachem because the paperwork is already good and the price already reflects it

SN

which creates a weird hole. the vendor we trust most is the one we have least independent data on

LM

yes. trust and evidence are inversely correlated in this market and that should bother people more than it does

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TA

same for GL Biochem in a different way. everyone treats them as upstream and real so nobody bothers testing the resold vials

CO

correct. the reputation belongs to the manufacturer, the vial belongs to whoever repacked it

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LM

the careless-buyer dataset. nobody wants to fund it and it is the one that reflects reality