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#test-results 2025-11-21

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Highlights from this day
  • deamidation — then some water went in with it. probably not five points worth but it is a real contributor and it is entirely on our side of the line 20:59
  • deamidation — short version, and none of it is clever 21:04
  • marrow.mod — post both when you have them, a paired result on the same order is worth more than either alone 21:43
MO

a result without a lot number and a purchase date is an anecdote with a pdf attached

whats the lot

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MO

underfill is more common than impurity. if you only test purity you are testing the less likely failure

T5

what interests me is when the gap goes the same direction every time. once is noise, three times is a pattern

MO

follow up is quantity testing available as a separate thing or bundled

PP

my result contradicts the supplier certificate, do i tell them

SB

the widest spread in my data is about 2.6 percentage points across five lots from one supplier

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sorry to jump in anyone had a result they think was a lab error rather than a bad vial

which lab

SB

98.6 against a certificate of 99.2 is fine. the same supplier landing low four times in a row is a question

a single sample tells you about a single vial. that is genuinely all it tells you

*that should say weekly

assay under label with good purity means you got less of the right thing. that is a fill problem, not a synthesis problem

MG

i test roughly every tenth vial. it is a sampling strategy, not paranoia

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MM

result came back 94.2% and i am fairly sure it is my fault not theirs

MM

posted the sample in July, it sat in a sorting depot for six days, tracking showed it in a country i have never been to, and the lab logged it as received eleven days after i sent it

DE

then you are probably fine actually. dry lyophilised peptide is far more robust than people assume, that is the whole point of lyophilising it

DE

94.2 is probably real, or at least the heat is not the obvious explanation. eleven days dry at ambient does not usually cost you five points

SS

it does if humidity got in. did you send the whole vial or decant

DE

then some water went in with it. probably not five points worth but it is a real contributor and it is entirely on our side of the line

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CC

this is the hobby chain-of-custody problem in one story. the lab did its job perfectly and the number still does not mean what we want it to mean

DE

short version, and none of it is clever

what reduces the argument later, roughly in order

1. send the sealed vial if you can afford to
2. if decanting, do it fast, dry room, no breath on it
3. do not reconstitute before shipping, ever
4. photograph the cake and the label first
5. record the date you opened it and the date you posted
6. note the weather. yes really
7. keep a second vial from the same order untouched

none of this makes the result better. it makes the
result interpretable, which is the thing we keep
throwing away.
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CC

it is wasteful. it is also the only version where a low result means something

MM

we have had this argument about twenty times and it always lands there

DE

labs will test what arrives. they may note the container. they will not reconstruct your kitchen for you

SS

the Saber sample i sent went as a sealed vial and the report noted vial intact, cake white and free-flowing, which was worth having on paper

MM

my report says appearance: white powder, no comment on the cake because there was no cake, it was a scoop in a tube

DE

right. and that is a small piece of information you destroyed by decanting

SS

also declare it properly. mine went as analytical reference sample, no commercial value, and cleared without a question

DE

and to close the loop on the original number: i would call 94.2 unusable rather than bad. you cannot attribute it

MM

which is annoying but fair. sending a sealed one from the same order next month

MM

post both when you have them, a paired result on the same order is worth more than either alone

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