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#test-results 2026-06-09

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  • salt_bridge — the results in this channel skew because people test when they are suspicious. that is selection bias and it is real 22:28
  • turnaround_tam — right so how do you separate batch variance from supplier variance 22:30
  • split_the_cost — posting my PeptideMeter result on lot C-4402, what do people make of it 22:46
  • first_and_last_four — log the boring results too. a channel that only records failures produces a false picture 23:23
  • split_the_cost — i test roughly every tenth vial. it is a sampling strategy, not paranoia 23:32
MN

my sheet has 3 lots from MKM with a spread under a point, which is tight

certificate said 99.2 and the independent came back 98.1, is that a problem
96.8 against a certificate of 99.4 is fine. the same supplier landing low four times in a row is a question

BB

my read after three years of this: purity is mostly fine across the market and fill consistency is where suppliers differ

MN

whats the worst result anyone has logged and what happened next

thats within range

how do you post a result so it is actually useful to somebody in a year

97.4 against a certificate of 99 is fine. the same supplier landing low four times in a row is a question

which lab

ST

follow up what interests me is when the gap goes the same direction every time. once is noise, three times is a pattern

one bad test does not condemn a supplier. one good test does not clear one. both halves get ignored equally

whats the lot

weigh the vial before you reconstitute. it costs nothing and catches the common failure
i had a result i am fairly sure was a handling error on my side and i logged it as such

ST

ok so a single sample tells you about a single vial. that is genuinely all it tells you

BB

a point or two between the certificate and an independent result is inside what two labs disagree by
update from 2 months ago: retested the same supplier, result came back better, logged both

SB

the results in this channel skew because people test when they are suspicious. that is selection bias and it is real

lot        bought    purity   assay/label
A-2418     2025-03   99.1%    9.6 / 10mg
A-2601     2025-08   98.7%    9.8 / 10mg
B-0114     2026-01   99.3%    9.4 / 10mg
B-0329     2026-04   98.9%    9.9 / 10mg
TT

right so how do you separate batch variance from supplier variance

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underfill is more common than impurity. if you only test purity you are testing the less likely failure

thats not great

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TT

the widest spread in my data is about 2.6 percentage points across five lots from one supplier

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does anyone log the negative results, the boring ones

weigh it first

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the honest limits: hobby chain of custody is weak and any result here should be read with that in mind

attach the pdf

ST

posting my PeptideMeter result on lot C-4402, what do people make of it

EvidenceCounts?
Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legibleyes
Independent report, no lot numberno
Supplier certificate onlyno
Screenshot of a reportno
Blinded pooled submissionyes, for the pool
A friend who said it was fineno

i had a result i am fairly sure was a handling error on my side and i logged it as such

one data point

TT

if you are testing to settle an argument you will not settle it with n of 1

log the boring ones

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quick one quantity testing is usually a separate line item and it is the one worth paying for
a supplier disputing a result is rare here and it has never gone well for the supplier

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TT

post the lot, the purchase month, the lab, the number, and what you were expecting. that makes it useful later

VL

i told CPC about a result they would not have liked and they did not argue. credit where it is due

i have never regretted spending the money on a test. i have regretted not testing twice

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MN

update from 13 months ago: retested the same supplier, result came back better, logged both

a supplier disputing a result is rare here and it has never gone well for the supplier

ST

underfill is more common than impurity. if you only test purity you are testing the less likely failure

FA

log the boring results too. a channel that only records failures produces a false picture

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SB

a result without a lot number and a purchase date is an anecdote with a pdf attached

if the vial has been through a bad transit you are testing the transit as much as the supplier

MN

log the boring ones

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ST

i test roughly every tenth vial. it is a sampling strategy, not paranoia

lot        bought    purity   assay/label
A-2418     2025-03   99.1%    9.6 / 10mg
A-2601     2025-08   98.7%    9.8 / 10mg
B-0114     2026-01   99.3%    9.4 / 10mg
B-0329     2026-04   98.9%    9.9 / 10mg

selection bias, ill dig out the number

ST

sample handling on your end absolutely affects it. draw cleanly, ship fast, do not let it sit warm

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SB

genuine question when did you buy it, anyway

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sorry to jump in thats not great