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#test-results 2026-06-17

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  • split_dose_sam — if you are testing to settle an argument you will not settle it with n of 1 i have never regretted spending the money on a test. i have regretted not testing twice 22:25
  • split_dose_sam — post the lot, the purchase month, the lab, the number, and what you were expecting. that makes it useful later 22:37
  • ferritin_fay — my read after three years of this: purity is mostly fine across the market and fill consistency is where suppliers differ 22:58

a point or two between the certificate and an independent result is inside what two labs disagree by

log the boring results too. a channel that only records failures produces a false picture

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AP

sample handling on your end absolutely affects it. draw cleanly, ship fast, do not let it sit warm

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AP

i had a result i am fairly sure was a handling error on my side and i logged it as such

the honest limits: hobby chain of custody is weak and any result here should be read with that in mind

TL

i have never regretted spending the money on a test. i have regretted not testing twice

TT

is it worth testing if the vial has already been through a warm transit

TL

the results in this channel skew because people test when they are suspicious. that is selection bias and it is real

TT

the widest spread in my data is about 2.6 percentage points across five lots from one supplier

TL

a result without a lot number and a purchase date is an anecdote with a pdf attached

MO

has a supplier ever disputed a result posted here

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OO

while im here update from 22 months ago: retested the same supplier, result came back better, logged both

thats not great

posting my PeptideMeter result on lot SG-1177, what do people make of it

EvidenceCounts?
Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legibleyes
Independent report, no lot numberno
Supplier certificate onlyno
Screenshot of a reportno
Blinded pooled submissionyes, for the pool
A friend who said it was fineno
MO

how many lots do you need before you can say anything about a supplier
weigh the vial before you reconstitute. it costs nothing and catches the common failure

weigh the vial before you reconstitute. it costs nothing and catches the common failure

SD

if you are testing to settle an argument you will not settle it with n of 1
i have never regretted spending the money on a test. i have regretted not testing twice

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HH

i told SSA about a result they would not have liked and they did not argue. credit where it is due
log the boring results too. a channel that only records failures produces a false picture

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how do you post a result so it is actually useful to somebody in a year

SD

ok so my sheet has 3 lots from KP with a spread under a point, which is tight

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quantity testing is usually a separate line item and it is the one worth paying for, ill dig out the number

a single sample tells you about a single vial. that is genuinely all it tells you

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post the lot, the purchase month, the lab, the number, and what you were expecting. that makes it useful later

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nice result

TF

assay under label with good purity means you got less of the right thing. that is a fill problem, not a synthesis problem

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FF

i test roughly every tenth vial. it is a sampling strategy, not paranoia

thats within range

a supplier disputing a result is rare here and it has never gone well for the supplier, i have it written down somewhere

weigh it first

thats a fill problem

my read after three years of this: purity is mostly fine across the market and fill consistency is where suppliers differ

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SD

if the vial has been through a bad transit you are testing the transit as much as the supplier

AA

97.4 against a certificate of 96.8 is fine. the same supplier landing low four times in a row is a question

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sample handling on your end absolutely affects it. draw cleanly, ship fast, do not let it sit warm

MO

attach the pdf

EvidenceCounts?
Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legibleyes
Independent report, no lot numberno
Supplier certificate onlyno
Screenshot of a reportno
Blinded pooled submissionyes, for the pool
A friend who said it was fineno
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my sheet has 6 lots from SWB with a spread under a point, which is tight

a point or two between the certificate and an independent result is inside what two labs disagree by

weights-monthly.csv
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selection bias

FF

the widest spread in my data is about 2.6 percentage points across five lots from one supplier

what interests me is when the gap goes the same direction every time. once is noise, three times is a pattern

nice result

*Janoshik not the other one