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#tirzepatide 2025-08-17

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  • swirl_not_shake — held 10 for 17 months and lost 37kg over that stretch, slow and boring and fine 17:09
  • swirl_not_shake — while im here did anybody switch back to semaglutide after trying this 17:12
  • swirl_not_shake — does the appetite effect feel different or just stronger 17:18
  • noct.titrate — genuine question why does everyone talk about 7.5 and not 10 17:54
  • split_shipment — coming back to this SURMOUNT-OSA was the sleep apnoea trial and it is not a weight headline however its quoted 19:59

5 did nothing

the GI difference held for me right up to 15, which isnt what a couple of people here found

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SB

at 15 the GI came back for me, so my easier profile claim only applies below that

GIP plus GLP-1

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while im here did anybody switch back to semaglutide after trying this

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is the sweet spot argument about effect or about side effects

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no gap when i switched, took the last semaglutide dose and started this a week later

does the appetite effect feel different or just stronger

Cited study
Tirzepatide Once Weekly for the Treatment of Obesity (SURMOUNT-1)
New England Journal of Medicine · 2022
72 weeks, tirzepatide 5, 10 and 15mg against placebo.

coming back to this 5 was where i first noticed it properly, 2.5 did almost nothing for me

U1

did anyone find the GI easier than semaglutide at an equivalent effect
the trials titrated every four weeks to a target, most people here stop at whatever works

NT

easier gi for me

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance
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back after 26 months, do i restart at 2.5 or pick up near where i left off

U1

slightly off topic but the GIP explanation for easier nausea is plausible and i still treat it as a story not a fact, from memory

NT

genuine question why does everyone talk about 7.5 and not 10

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10 was enough

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i argued the sweet spot was nonsense and then spent 15 months at 7.5 not needing more

NT

at 5 my appetite is gone entirely, did anyone go down rather than up

VB

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SN

the sweet spot thing is survivorship, the people it worked for stayed and said so

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SN

the sweet spot argument is really about effect per side effect, not a magic number, i think

went back to semaglutide after 5 months because the cost difference mattered more than the GI, ill dig out the number

at 1.7 my appetite went completely and i dropped back a step, eating nothing isnt a win

SS

the 40 vial in 3ml gives 2.5mg/ml which puts 1.7 on 15 units, nice round numbers
there is no clean conversion between the two, anyone giving you a ratio is guessing

FF

unrelated but does the GIP arm actually explain the easier nausea or is that hand waving

SS

coming back to this SURMOUNT-OSA was the sleep apnoea trial and it is not a weight headline however its quoted

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dual agonist, GIP as well as GLP-1, thats the whole difference in one line

FF

plateaued at 21 weeks the same way i did on semaglutide, so i doubt its compound specific

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restarted at 2.5 after 20 months off and the first two doses reminded me why titration exists

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GI was noticeably easier for me than semaglutide at what felt like the same appetite effect, n of 1 obviously

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