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#vendor-verification 2024-09-22

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  • chlorhex — sorry to jump in how do you handle a result that is good but the sample handling was poor a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier… 20:41
  • relabel_watch — verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently 21:18
  • tenpence — how many independent results does a supplier need 23:11
CH

two labs disagree on the same lot, which one goes in the log

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what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises

does a supplier certificate on its own count for anything

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PS

coming back to this two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers

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CH

sorry to jump in how do you handle a result that is good but the sample handling was poor
a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited

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SD

if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score

RW

what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine

RW

a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record

VB

Testing queue: 3 submissions open, 122 awaiting dispatch.

verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently

EvidenceCounts?
Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legibleyes
Independent report, no lot numberno
Supplier certificate onlyno
Screenshot of a reportno
Blinded pooled submissionyes, for the pool
A friend who said it was fineno
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PS

we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern

RW

blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs

SD

somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log

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RW

i have watched this standard hold for three years including when it was inconvenient for a popular supplier

TE

a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel

PF

we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry

TT

verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more

PF

a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all, i have it written down somewhere

TE

how many independent results does a supplier need

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