follow up verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted, your mileage will differ
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#vendor-verification 2024-11-07
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- still_here_2024 — follow up verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted, your mileage will differ 19:43
- still_here_2024 — nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes, take that with a pinch of salt 19:46
- deamidation — do blinded submissions carry more weight than open ones 20:03
- still_here_2024 — we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with… 20:10
- two_labs_two_answers — ok so update from 17 months ago: KP added evidence and the entry now reflects it 20:28
how does a supplier get verification revoked
nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes, take that with a pinch of salt
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refresh on evidence
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if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score
i have watched this standard hold for three years including when it was inconvenient for a popular supplier
two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers, someone check my working
do blinded submissions carry more weight than open ones
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has anyone ever offered to pay for verification
we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern
a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both
| Evidence | Counts? |
|---|---|
| Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legible | yes |
| Independent report, no lot number | no |
| Supplier certificate only | no |
| Screenshot of a report | no |
| Blinded pooled submission | yes, for the pool |
| A friend who said it was fine | no |
a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel
i have a result but i did not buy the lot myself, does that count
follow up verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
thats evidence
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slightly off topic but verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
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somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
ok so update from 17 months ago: KP added evidence and the entry now reflects it
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blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both
ok so the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division
nothing gets deleted
[edited]what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises
is there a version of the log i can read chronologically
never for sale
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a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all
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the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line
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coming back to this what actually counts as evidence for a verification
[edited]blinded is better
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pattern not one result
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revoked stays in the log
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thats not evidence
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does a supplier certificate on its own count for anything
both numbers go in