blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
#vendor-verification 2025-03-19
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- warsaw_vial — does a supplier certificate on its own count for anything 17:02
- warsaw_vial — follow up a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited 17:58
- warsaw_vial — verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted, from memory 17:59
does a supplier certificate on its own count for anything
| Evidence | Counts? |
|---|---|
| Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legible | yes |
| Independent report, no lot number | no |
| Supplier certificate only | no |
| Screenshot of a report | no |
| Blinded pooled submission | yes, for the pool |
| A friend who said it was fine | no |
lot number or nothing
if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution
how does a supplier get verification revoked
update from 10 months ago: QYB added evidence and the entry now reflects it, ill dig out the number
[edited]quick one two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers
the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not
nothing gets deleted
follow up a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited
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verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted, from memory
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a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both
thats not evidence
the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division
post the photos
we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry
if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score
somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
not a recommendation
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how many independent results does a supplier need
never for sale