how many independent results does a supplier need
#vendor-verification 2025-07-24
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- nadia_notes — the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line 19:06
- nadia_notes — the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not 19:07
- split_the_cost — verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted 20:10
not a recommendation
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verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
follow up a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record, take that with a pinch of salt
the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line
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the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not
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for the archive what happens to the log entry when a supplier improves
nothing gets deleted
how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing
revoked stays in the log
both numbers go in
what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine
blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs, not advice obviously
[edited]lot number or nothing
does Homopeptide being verified mean my vial is fine
has anyone ever offered to pay for verification
the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division
log it either way
two labs disagree on the same lot, which one goes in the log
two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers
verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
right so we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern
follow up somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
thin evidence
a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both, take that with a pinch of salt
verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted
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pattern not one result
why is a referral link disqualifying rather than just ignored
post the photos
i have watched this standard hold for three years including when it was inconvenient for a popular supplier
thats evidence
who decides, the mods or the room
refresh on evidence
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do blinded submissions carry more weight than open ones
how do you handle a result that is good but the sample handling was poor
what actually counts as evidence for a verification
slightly off topic but i have a result but i did not buy the lot myself, does that count
nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes
is the verification log the same thing as a recommendation
thats not evidence
has verification ever been reinstated after a revocation
if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution