a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both
#vendor-verification 2026-03-29
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- electrolyte_eli — what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine 19:42
- declared_value — we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry 19:46
- deamidation — the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not 21:31
- shame_and_meds — verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted 23:23
update on the earlier thing if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution
why is a referral link disqualifying rather than just ignored
how many independent results does a supplier need
follow up verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
nothing gets deleted
what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine
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somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all
we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry
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post the photos
not a recommendation
who decides, the mods or the room
thin evidence
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both numbers go in
refresh on evidence
the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division
is there a version of the log i can read chronologically
lot number or nothing
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Inter-lab diff for lot D-0718: 97.4% vs 99.2%. Within expected range.
has verification ever been reinstated after a revocation
verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel
what actually counts as evidence for a verification
quick one update from 15 months ago: GGPeps added evidence and the entry now reflects it
a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record
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thats not evidence
revoked stays in the log
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log it either way
thats evidence
blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
follow up how do you handle a result that is good but the sample handling was poor
update on the earlier thing two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers, we shall see
the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not
| Evidence | Counts? |
|---|---|
| Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legible | yes |
| Independent report, no lot number | no |
| Supplier certificate only | no |
| Screenshot of a report | no |
| Blinded pooled submission | yes, for the pool |
| A friend who said it was fine | no |
Inter-lab diff for lot KP-0925: 99.2% vs 99%. Within expected range.
has anyone ever offered to pay for verification
if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score
a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited, i have it written down somewhere
what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises
verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently, ill dig out the number
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coming back after 20 months, has the standard changed
follow up a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all
nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes
blinded is better
verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted
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