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#vendor-verification 2026-04-02

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Highlights from this day
  • dexa_or_bia — what actually counts as evidence for a verification 20:14
  • relabel_watch — nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes 20:52
  • vial_ledger — update from 26 months ago: WXT added evidence and the entry now reflects it 21:50
  • lisbon_lot — verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted 22:29
  • first_and_last_four — a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all 23:23
DO

right so coming back after 11 months, has the standard changed

VV

somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log

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DO

right so what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises

what actually counts as evidence for a verification

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the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line

VV

if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution

does a good result from Janoshik outweigh a bad one from Janoshik

SF

we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern

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not a recommendation

ok so the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not, we shall see
verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more

is a screenshot of a report ever acceptable

AA

if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score

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is the verification log the same thing as a recommendation

SS

verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted, thats just me

a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record

a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel

VL

a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both, n of 1 obviously

verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more

nothing gets deleted

what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine

how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing

the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division

two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers

thin evidence

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how does a supplier get verification revoked

i have watched this standard hold for three years including when it was inconvenient for a popular supplier

lot number or nothing

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DO

a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all, ask me again in a month

pattern not one result

update from 26 months ago: WXT added evidence and the entry now reflects it

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never for sale

revoked stays in the log

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SF

blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs

two labs disagree on the same lot, which one goes in the log

verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted

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VV

we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry

if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score

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a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all

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*that should say weekly