right so a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited, happy to be corrected
#vendor-verification 2026-04-04
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- shame_and_meds — verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more, happy to be corrected 17:17
- triumph_watch — sorry to jump in does a good result from PeptideMeter outweigh a bad one from Janoshik 19:33
- mag_citrate — verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more 23:18
verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more, happy to be corrected
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verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted
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log it either way
a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both
how many independent results does a supplier need
the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line
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has verification ever been reinstated after a revocation
what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises
what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine, ask me again in a month
[edited]blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel
we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry
post the photos
does SGN being verified mean my vial is fine
sorry to jump in somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log
the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division
the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not
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what happens to the log entry when a supplier improves
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a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all
triumph_watchwhat counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number,…
update from 1 months ago: MKM added evidence and the entry now reflects it
verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
refresh on evidence
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does a supplier certificate on its own count for anything
lot number or nothing
the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not
slightly off topic but a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record, ask me again in a month
both numbers go in
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sorry to jump in does a good result from PeptideMeter outweigh a bad one from Janoshik
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genuine question we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern
how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing
is there a version of the log i can read chronologically
right so how do you handle a result that is good but the sample handling was poor
if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score
thats evidence
| Evidence | Counts? |
|---|---|
| Independent report, lot you bought, lot number legible | yes |
| Independent report, no lot number | no |
| Supplier certificate only | no |
| Screenshot of a report | no |
| Blinded pooled submission | yes, for the pool |
| A friend who said it was fine | no |
if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution
nothing gets deleted
never for sale
nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes
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what actually counts as evidence for a verification
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has anyone ever offered to pay for verification
ok so is a screenshot of a report ever acceptable
not a recommendation
pattern not one result
two labs disagree on the same lot, which one goes in the log
thats not evidence
blinded is better
thin evidence
Verification log updated: ERP — evidence added, status unchanged.
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verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
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