verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
#vendor-verification 2026-05-24
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- nine_nine_one — two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers 20:31
- point_two_five — we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern 21:11
- point_two_five — the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division 21:13
does a supplier certificate on its own count for anything
refresh on evidence
i have watched this standard hold for three years including when it was inconvenient for a popular supplier
pattern not one result
what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises
two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers
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verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently, ill dig out the number
a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel
we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry, from memory
do blinded submissions carry more weight than open ones
thats evidence
who decides, the mods or the room
blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
[edited]we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern
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the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division
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post the photos
thats not evidence
lot number or nothing
what happens to the log entry when a supplier improves
verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted
a supplier improving shows in the log as later entries, not as earlier entries being edited
nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes
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if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score, not advice obviously
for the archive a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all
the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line
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has verification ever been reinstated after a revocation
what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine, happy to be corrected
why is a referral link disqualifying rather than just ignored
if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution, happy to be corrected
follow up update from 17 months ago: CPC added evidence and the entry now reflects it
the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not
for the archive blinded is better
the lot number on the certificate does not match my vial, what now
thin evidence
is the verification log the same thing as a recommendation
coming back after 23 months, has the standard changed
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slightly off topic but how do you handle a result that is good but the sample handling was poor
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a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record
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