a referral link is disqualifying because it makes the reporter an interested party. that is all, i could be wrong
#vendor-verification 2026-06-11
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- chlorhex — the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line 17:46
- chlorhex — for the archive verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more 17:51
- week_three_wall — the lot number on the certificate does not match my vial, what now 18:19
who decides, the mods or the room
the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line
refresh on evidence
lot number or nothing
coming back to this has anyone ever offered to pay for verification
pattern not one result
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blinded submissions carry more weight because they remove a variable, not because we distrust the labs
does a supplier certificate on its own count for anything
we refresh on new evidence, not on a clock. an old verification with no recent results says so on the entry, ill dig out the number
two labs a point or two apart on one lot is normal. both go in the log with both numbers
a lot number mismatch between the vial and the certificate is a serious finding. post it with photos of both
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not a recommendation
verification is revoked on a confirmed failure and the revocation stays in the log permanently
we have never revoked on a single result. we have revoked on a pattern
thats not evidence
both numbers go in
ok so what counts: an independent report, on a lot you bought yourself, with the lot number, from a lab the room recognises, anyway
has verification ever been reinstated after a revocation
right so two labs disagree on the same lot, which one goes in the log
what does not count: the supplier certificate alone, a screenshot, a referral link, or a friend who says it was fine
revoked stays in the log
coming back after 18 months, has the standard changed
genuine question i have watched this standard hold for three years including when it was inconvenient for a popular supplier, i think
if you want to help, buy a lot, test it, and post the report with the lot number. that is the whole contribution
blinded is better
the log is readable chronologically and that is deliberate. the trajectory matters more than the current line
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sorry to jump in the point of the standard is that it applies to suppliers we like as well as ones we do not, not advice obviously
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for the archive verification is not a recommendation. it means the evidence standard has been met, nothing more
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update from 7 months ago: FGP added evidence and the entry now reflects it
is a screenshot of a report ever acceptable
somebody once offered to fund the testing programme in exchange for an entry. the offer is in the log, happy to be corrected
log it either way
the lot number on the certificate does not match my vial, what now
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why is a referral link disqualifying rather than just ignored
a good result with bad sample handling gets logged with a note about the handling. context is part of the record
does FGP being verified mean my vial is fine
ok so i have a result but i did not buy the lot myself, does that count
verification has never been for sale and never will be. offers get posted publicly with the sender redacted
a verified supplier can still ship you a bad vial. verification is about the record, not about your parcel
if the evidence is thin the entry says the evidence is thin. that is more useful than a score
the mods maintain the log. the room supplies the evidence and argues about it, which is the correct division, n of 1 obviously
how does a supplier get verification revoked
post the photos
nothing gets deleted from the log, including our own mistakes
log it either way
thats evidence
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nothing gets deleted
what happens to the log entry when a supplier improves
does a good result from VendorInvestigate outweigh a bad one from VendorInvestigate
what actually counts as evidence for a verification
revoked stays in the log
how long does a verification stay current before it needs refreshing