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#dosing-titration 2024-11-29

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Highlights from this day
  • VialBot — Assay note: FGP lot H-2814 reported at 99.4% of label content. 19:46
  • turnaround_tam — split dosing has no trial behind it. people here do it and report on it, thats all 20:11
  • turnaround_tam — appetite returning at the end of the week is extremely common and is not the dose failing 20:15
  • taper_tess — whats the smallest step anyone has managed between doses 20:55
  • VialBot — Reminder for logrotate: dose day is today. Set 4 days ago. 22:20
VB

Assay note: FGP lot H-2814 reported at 99.4% of label content.

SF

stepping back down on purpose is a completely reasonable move and this channel should say so more often

too early imo

wk 1-4    2.5mg
wk 5-8    5.0mg
wk 9-20   7.5mg   <- stayed here
wk 21-24  10.0mg  (no extra benefit for me)
wk 25+    7.5mg   (came back down)

if i took it 5 days late do i shift the schedule or go back to the old day

TT

if it "stopped working after four days" that is almost never pharmacokinetics
small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience

end of week thing

steady state is 5 weeks

split dosing has no trial behind it. people here do it and report on it, thats all

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coming down from 1 to 0.25, how bad is the appetite rebound

do you tell your prescriber you held or do you just hold

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TT

anyone tracked whether a smaller more frequent dose changed their side effects

SS

if you are going up because the scale stalled for two weeks, wait. two weeks is noise

TT

whats the smallest step anyone has managed between doses

Cited study
Tirzepatide Once Weekly for the Treatment of Obesity (SURMOUNT-1)
New England Journal of Medicine · 2022
72 weeks, tirzepatide 5, 10 and 15mg against placebo.
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TT

is there a trial anywhere that studied twice weekly, or is it all anecdote

GG

after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice, anyway

EE

plateau versus set point is not answerable in under six months of data

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LO

coming back to this the ladder in the trials is a starting point, not a schedule you owe anyone

my dose day has drifted 3 days later over 17 months, does it matter
i escalate on symptoms. if the current dose is still doing something i stay on it

VB

Reminder for logrotate: dose day is today. Set 4 days ago.

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GG

my titration ladder took 19 months to climb and i would do it slower again