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#dosing-titration 2026-02-01

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  • nhs_pathway_nell — has anyone gone up and then straight back down and been glad they tried 17:15
  • nhs_pathway_nell — small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience 17:46
  • VialBot — New independent result logged — CPC, lot SG-1177, purity 98.1% (Medutest). 19:47
NW

stepping back down on purpose is a completely reasonable move and this channel should say so more often

NW

my titration ladder took 2 months to climb and i would do it slower again

a missed week does not reset you, but going straight back to the top dose after a gap is how people get floored, ymmv
i escalate on symptoms. if the current dose is still doing something i stay on it

NW

anyone tracked whether a smaller more frequent dose changed their side effects

BB

my dose day has drifted 5 days later over 8 months, does it matter

NW

plateau versus set point is not answerable in under six months of data

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NW

holding is not failing. most people here who lasted two years held at least one dose for months, your mileage will differ

came down from a treatment dose to maintenance over about three months and it was uneventful, anyway
a missed week does not reset you, but going straight back to the top dose after a gap is how people get floored

U1

if you are going up because the scale stalled for two weeks, wait. two weeks is noise

NP

has anyone gone up and then straight back down and been glad they tried

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with a roughly seven day half-life you are near steady state after about five weeks at a dose

if the current dose is still working, going up is spending headroom you might want later

Cited study
Triple–Hormone-Receptor Agonist Retatrutide for Obesity — A Phase 2 Trial
New England Journal of Medicine · 2023
48 weeks, dose-ranging. A Phase 2 result is not a safety record.
NP

the argument for splitting is a flatter curve. the argument against is you have doubled your injections for a guess

update on the earlier thing does a missed week reset anything or do you just carry on

the honest answer is that most of us are running protocols nobody has ever studied

i went from 15 to 5 and honestly could not tell the difference in appetite

i escalate on symptoms. if the current dose is still doing something i stay on it

NP

small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience

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half life is a week

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EV

split dosing has no trial behind it. people here do it and report on it, thats all, still working it out

NP

dose day drift is mostly harmless with a weekly compound, but pick a day and defend it

EV

if you are asking whether to go up, the fact you are asking usually means not yet

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EV

update from 2 months ago: held at the same dose the whole time and still losing slowly, n of 1 obviously

TT

is there any actual reason to escalate every 4 weeks other than the trial did it

TT

is there a point where going up stops buying you anything

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steady state is 5 weeks

whats a sensible maintenance dose after a year at treatment dose

SS

the ladder in the trials is a starting point, not a schedule you owe anyone

wk 1-4    0.25mg
wk 5-10   0.50mg   (held 2 extra weeks)
wk 11-14  1.00mg
wk 15-26  1.70mg   (held, long)
wk 27+    2.40mg
SS

the trials escalated on a fixed schedule because a trial has to. you are not a trial

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TT

the people who do best here are almost always the ones going slowest

is there a trial anywhere that studied twice weekly, or is it all anecdote

FI

i went to the top of the ladder, felt no better than two rungs down, and came back. that is data for me and nobody else

held for months

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance
BB

while im here i hold for two months minimum before i decide a dose has stopped doing anything

VB

On this day 2 years ago this channel logged 128 messages.

RR

appetite returning at the end of the week is extremely common and is not the dose failing

VB

New independent result logged — CPC, lot SG-1177, purity 98.1% (Medutest).

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NP

right so i drifted from sunday to wednesday over a year and only noticed when i checked the log

SS

my rule: if a side effect is still there at day five, i hold. if it clears by day three, i step

thats normal

sorry to jump in how do you tell a plateau from just being at your set point

SS

i log dose, day, weight and one line about how the week felt. thats enough to make decisions on

FI

end of week thing

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BB

i jumped a rung once to catch up after a supply gap and it was a bad week. would not repeat
i hold for two months minimum before i decide a dose has stopped doing anything

BB

nobody here can tell you what dose to be on and the ones who try get corrected

do you tell your prescriber you held or do you just hold

too early imo

SS

after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice