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#dosing-titration 2026-05-19

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  • evidence_or_not — plateau versus set point is not answerable in under six months of data, for what its worth 17:24
  • nausea_window — the trials escalated on a fixed schedule because a trial has to. you are not a trial 18:05
  • nhs_pathway_nell — whats the longest anyone has stayed on one dose 18:23
  • gradient_greg — unrelated but whats a sensible maintenance dose after a year at treatment dose 19:10
  • lean_mass_lex — dose day drift is mostly harmless with a weekly compound, but pick a day and defend it 20:02
NW

quick one nobody here can tell you what dose to be on and the ones who try get corrected

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EO

plateau versus set point is not answerable in under six months of data, for what its worth

wk 1-4    2.5mg
wk 5-8    5.0mg
wk 9-20   7.5mg   <- stayed here
wk 21-24  10.0mg  (no extra benefit for me)
wk 25+    7.5mg   (came back down)
EO

i drifted from sunday to wednesday over a year and only noticed when i checked the log

*that should say weekly

NW

small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience

NW

the trials escalated on a fixed schedule because a trial has to. you are not a trial

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NW

i escalate on symptoms. if the current dose is still doing something i stay on it

you do not have to escalate at all. that is a real option that gets forgotten

*that should say weekly

genuine question how do you decide between holding and stepping when both feel wrong

LM

i went to the top of the ladder, felt no better than two rungs down, and came back. that is data for me and nobody else

NP

half life is a week

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance
LM

my titration ladder took 7 months to climb and i would do it slower again

NP

the ladder in the trials is a starting point, not a schedule you owe anyone, ill dig out the number
update from 23 months ago: held at the same dose the whole time and still losing slowly

GG

unrelated but whats a sensible maintenance dose after a year at treatment dose

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has anyone gone up and then straight back down and been glad they tried

LM

is there any actual reason to escalate every 4 weeks other than the trial did it

how much does the last dose still matter 3 days later

LM

split dosing has no trial behind it. people here do it and report on it, thats all, i have it written down somewhere

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dose day drift is mostly harmless with a weekly compound, but pick a day and defend it

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GG

came down from a treatment dose to maintenance over about three months and it was uneventful

update from 21 months ago: held at the same dose the whole time and still losing slowly

do you escalate on the calendar or on how you feel
my rule: if a side effect is still there at day five, i hold. if it clears by day three, i step

stepping back down on purpose is a completely reasonable move and this channel should say so more often
the honest answer is that most of us are running protocols nobody has ever studied

TN

anyone tracked whether a smaller more frequent dose changed their side effects
i hold for two months minimum before i decide a dose has stopped doing anything

TN

appetite returning at the end of the week is extremely common and is not the dose failing

the people who do best here are almost always the ones going slowest

*Janoshik not the other one

do you tell your prescriber you held or do you just hold

AA

slightly off topic but i went up too fast and im paying for it, do i drop back or ride it out

ST

i hold for two months minimum before i decide a dose has stopped doing anything