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#dosing-titration 2026-06-26

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  • reta_resting_hr — with a roughly seven day half-life you are near steady state after about five weeks at a dose 19:03
  • nausea_window — slightly off topic but small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience 20:03
  • batch_bandit — whats the smallest step anyone has managed between doses 20:23
  • batch_bandit — does a missed week reset anything or do you just carry on 21:48
TO

holding is not failing. most people here who lasted two years held at least one dose for months

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how much does the last dose still matter 5 days later

for the archive update question: did anyone who held for 5 months regret it

PN

my rule: if a side effect is still there at day five, i hold. if it clears by day three, i step

ST

is week 31 too early to be thinking about the next step

Cited study
Effect of Continued Weekly Semaglutide vs Placebo on Weight Loss Maintenance (STEP 4)
JAMA · 2021
The withdrawal arm. This is the trial to read before you plan to stop.

has anyone gone up and then straight back down and been glad they tried

RR

split dosing has no trial behind it. people here do it and report on it, thats all

stepping back down on purpose is a completely reasonable move and this channel should say so more often

is there a trial anywhere that studied twice weekly, or is it all anecdote

if you are asking whether to go up, the fact you are asking usually means not yet

II

sorry to jump in whats your rule for when a side effect means hold rather than push

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RR

with a roughly seven day half-life you are near steady state after about five weeks at a dose

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QH

if the current dose is still working, going up is spending headroom you might want later

my titration ladder took 7 months to climb and i would do it slower again

NW

if it "stopped working after four days" that is almost never pharmacokinetics

VB

Assay note: QSC lot C-4402 reported at 98.6% of label content.

NW

plateau versus set point is not answerable in under six months of data

after a gap of more than about three weeks i restart one rung lower. thats my own rule, not advice

SB

unrelated but the people who do best here are almost always the ones going slowest

QH

the honest answer is that most of us are running protocols nobody has ever studied

Cited study
Semaglutide vs Liraglutide for Weight Loss in Adults with Overweight or Obesity (STEP 8)
JAMA · 2022
Weekly against daily, head to head.
SB

i drifted from sunday to wednesday over a year and only noticed when i checked the log

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QH

a missed week does not reset you, but going straight back to the top dose after a gap is how people get floored, n of 1 obviously

i went up too fast and im paying for it, do i drop back or ride it out

i log dose, day, weight and one line about how the week felt. thats enough to make decisions on, ymmv

NW

slightly off topic but small steps are better than big ones and the only reason people take big ones is impatience

Cited study
Triple–Hormone-Receptor Agonist Retatrutide for Obesity — A Phase 2 Trial
New England Journal of Medicine · 2023
48 weeks, dose-ranging. A Phase 2 result is not a safety record.
NW

for the archive the trials escalated on a fixed schedule because a trial has to. you are not a trial

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BB

nobody here can tell you what dose to be on and the ones who try get corrected

whats the smallest step anyone has managed between doses

Trial scheduleWhat most people here do
Step interval4 weeks, fixed4-12 weeks, on symptoms
Holdingprotocol deviationnormal and expected
Top dosereached by designoften never reached
Coming downnot studiedcommon at maintenance
PN

for the archive you do not have to escalate at all. that is a real option that gets forgotten, happy to be corrected

SB

the argument for splitting is a flatter curve. the argument against is you have doubled your injections for a guess

end of week thing, i could be wrong

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PN

update from 13 months ago: held at the same dose the whole time and still losing slowly

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n of 1

SB

update on the earlier thing my dose day has drifted 5 days later over 4 months, does it matter

what does the room think about jumping a rung to catch up

PT

appetite returning at the end of the week is extremely common and is not the dose failing

VB

Batch lookup B-0114: 6 independent reports on file, earliest 2025-12-29.

BB

if you are going up because the scale stalled for two weeks, wait. two weeks is noise

BB

does a missed week reset anything or do you just carry on

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i went to the top of the ladder, felt no better than two rungs down, and came back. that is data for me and nobody else

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slightly off topic but i jumped a rung once to catch up after a supply gap and it was a bad week. would not repeat, for what its worth

how do you tell a plateau from just being at your set point

go slower