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#hplc-massspec 2026-03-31

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  • VialBot — Verification log updated: QST — evidence added, status unchanged. 19:36
  • snac_and_water — for the archive two labs a point or two apart on the same lot is normal and gets mistaken for one of them being wrong constantly, your mileage will differ 19:49
  • mcg_not_mg — unrelated but ms/ms sequencing is the only thing i would call identity. everything else is circumstantial 20:15
  • VialBot — Archive lookup: HPLC_Hank first appears in this channel on 2025-11-01. 21:53
  • monoisotopic — co-elution is the failure mode that a beautiful single peak is most likely to be hiding 22:43
II

semaglutide is about 4113.6 Da. [M+2H]2+ lands near 2057.8, [M+3H]3+ near 1372.2

update on the earlier thing how do you spot a deletion in a sequence from mass alone

VB

Verification log updated: QST — evidence added, status unchanged.

SA

for the archive two labs a point or two apart on the same lot is normal and gets mistaken for one of them being wrong constantly, your mileage will differ

plus 16 is oxidation

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BR

for the archive is uv at 214 or 280 better for peptides

within inter-lab range

thats a charge state

BR

the first peak is the solvent. it is always the solvent

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has anyone ever had a result where the mass was right and the purity was wrong

SA

integration choices move the number by a few tenths easily. that is most of your inter-lab variance, ill dig out the number

coming back to this 214nm sees the amide backbone so it sees everything. 280 only sees aromatics

MN

unrelated but ms/ms sequencing is the only thing i would call identity. everything else is circumstantial

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MS

genuine question truncations show as a mass deficit matching one or more residues. you need the sequence to say which

MN

slightly off topic but retention time is a hint, not a fingerprint. two different peptides can co-elute perfectly happily

II

thats co-elution

peak   RRT    area%    note
  1   0.42     0.31    solvent front
  2   0.88     0.44    related substance
  3   1.00    98.72    main
  4   1.14     0.53    related substance
VB

Archive lookup: HPLC_Hank first appears in this channel on 2025-11-01.

II

coming back to this a shoulder on a peak is information, and usually bad information

MO

co-elution is the failure mode that a beautiful single peak is most likely to be hiding

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BR

sorry to jump in tirzepatide is about 4813.5 Da, so 2+ is near 2407.8 and 3+ near 1605.5

shallow gradient

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HH

shallow gradients hide related substances behind the main peak. a steeper one separates and looks worse, honestly