oral peptide bioavailability is very low, which is exactly why the oral dose is so much larger than the injected one
splitting a dose made the absorption problem worse rather
Spun off from a message in #oral-glp1 on 2025-06-27. 16 messages, 5 participants.
- vialkeeper — splitting a dose made the absorption problem worse rather than better in my own log 23:22
is there any point splitting an oral dose
coffee doesnt count
the fasted window is the reason people give up on this rather than any effect from the compound
plain water only
orforglipron is a small molecule rather than a peptide, which is why the fasting conditions differ, dry storage, not cold chain
between person variability on the oral route is reported as larger, and that fits the absorption mechanism, worth checking yourself
same, did not get easier
lost 24kg over 25 months on oral, slower than my injectable stretch, i stuck with it anyway, not medical advice
switched to injectable, reporting PIONEER was the original oral semaglutide programme and OASIS looked at the higher oral doses, coffee does not count
the milligram figure is bigger because almost none of it gets absorbed. that is absorption, not potency, more water is a deviation
the fasting window is the difference between a dose and a very expensive tablet, that is why the numbers look so different
protocol pedantry the non peptide agents dose daily without the water ritual, thats the practical difference, off protocol is off the map
the quiet in this channel is because the protocol filters people out, not because there is nothing to say
storage for orals is a dry, room temperature problem rather than a cold chain one, research use only, not approved for human use
quiet channel but the empty stomach protocol and the small water volume are part of how the absorption was studied. they are not folklore, coffee does not count
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